My favorite is the Prince who Was Promised who would be born under a bleeding star.

Arthur Dayne's sword was made from a falling star and was covered in blood. Oh and Ned had it leaned up against his sisters bed right after Jon was born.

Pretty clever. Especially since I never once saw a rumor about that being what would happen like the whole obvious rumor about who Jon's mother is.

This post was edited by fuzzy159 on Apr 3 2017 03:26pm

You gotta stop bro, a man can only get so erect.

I was going over all the cool twists like that a couple days ago and GoT was born to be a masterpiece. The show runners get a lot of credit as they should but GRRM gave them an epic story to work with.

Started watching True Detective too btw

Lmk what you think man. You seem to appreciate brilliant stories and great dialogue, that show delivers both in excess.

GRRM is a fucking genius. I can't even comprehend how one person can hold all this shit in their brain without going insane.

GRRM said something about that in an interview a few years ago actually. The big ASOIAF fan site is run by a couple superfans who know the universe better than Martin does. He talks to them regularly and uses them as a resource to fact check and make sure he doesn't create conflicting plot points.

The thing that amazes me about his writing is how he can write such a wide variety of characters so well. A 70-year old man should not be able to get inside Arya's head well enough to make me develop romantic feelings for a fictional literary character.

A lot of it is just the dedication be puts into his work. I remember an interview with king one time where king was talking about how'd he set goals for himself to write say 10 to 30 pages in a day and he'd just sit there until it was done and whatever he had at the end of the day was what he'd go with. Martin was the opposite who said some days he'd write 3 to 5 pages and then realize something didn't work or it'd be too confusing or he just didn't like it and he'd end up scraping the entire thing. His dedication is insane, I know it takes him for fucking ever, but it's worth the wait for books that are so close to perfection and so damn intricate. Only thing that worries me is how he ends it. Some authors (king is the best example) just can't end a book to save their fucking life. I'm going to cry if it ends up being Dark Tower or It bad lol.

That's fanatic btw that he has that type of resource that he's not ashamed or hesitant about utilizing. Speaks loads to his character and the fact that he's so not pompous is probably why he's able to understand and fully create a connection between readers and his characters, even if the character is so far removed from who he is.

Truly an awe inspiring author and it gives me hope seeing something so grand, intelligent, and mythical garner the mainstream success it has. It's just nice seeing a book that doesn't intentionally try to just cater to the masses receive this level of recognition and hopefully it's inspiring a whole new generation of writers who inspire to tell the perfect story, rather than just selling books.

Can't praise him enough, I can't praise the people at HBO enough who've managed to remove so much content and yet still have kept the story true enough to the original that It's not only terrific for most people who have read the books, but it's also inspired thousands to actually go out and read something. So much hope and hype for this season.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Apr 3 2017 06:27pm

He's pretty much the unofficial Lord of the Vale. Through Robin he controls a vast army that can play a decisive role in the upcoming war, and House Arryn is pretty much the North's only potential ally.

Considering this and knowing how sneaky he is and his ability of turning the tides to his favour, I'm sure he still has a significant role left to play.

He is basically lord of the vale but that is pretty irrelevant. The real threat are the white walkers. The vale will help fight them without baelish because they will die like everyone else if that threat is not defeated. He will try to make another big move and it will fail causing his death. Maybe he gets lucky and has one big scheme work and dies on the second big scheme. Either way the political aspect of the show is coming to a close and that was his only role in the show, to stir the pot and make things happen from the shadows. With that part of the story taking a back seat to the real threat very soon there is not much left for him to do other than send the vale to help which will take all of one scene to set in motion. Why have a character like him hang around doing nothing for 2 seasons? He either dies in a failed scheme or fades in obscurity as actual warriors and commanders go on to get shit done. Having him sit around doing nothing the whole time is a pretty shitty end to his character. He may have a bigger impact on the end of things in the books but not in the show.

We'll see. I think it would be disappointing if the political backstabbing was done by the last season. It's what makes the show what it is, and I think they'll keep that theme around for as long as possible.

I also keep in mind Varys' quote on Baelish: "He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes". That could be foreshadowing something, as the 7 kingdoms have never been closer to burning as they are now. I don't think he'll end up winning but, I think he will be pushing his chances until pretty much the very end. With a panicking Westeros being sandwiched between the white walkers and Daenerys, it's now a great opportunity for him to spread chaos and fuel the destruction of his potential enemies.

They have to unite to stand any chance of beating the white walkers unless they dont pose even half the threat they have been built up to pose. This cannot happen with little finger playing his games. I dont expect him to die right away next season. I expect he will spend most of the episodes making a final play for power only to have it fail near the end of the season and die because of the failure.