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May 21 2016 06:50pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ May 21 2016 06:03pm)
....again


Box office success IS A CONTRIBUING FACTOR IN CREATING SEQUELS........

People wanting to watch a movie is a contributing factor in creating sequels.

People having general knowledge of the existence of a game is a contributing factor of creating sequels.

Holy shit, you are fucking retarded.


You say a good chunk of people don't know the lore with no evidence....I say there's more than you think with no evidence. No reason to argue about that.


Let's make it more simple for you as you seem to have issues using your brain, the specific question:

How will Warcraft's reception from criitics and audiences compare to the Hobbit (2012)?

My reply:

How closely they stick to source material will decide how much Warcraft fans like it, the general public though... Who knows.

And then you trying to argue that people knowledgeable in Warcraft lore > people not knowledgeable (again, fucking absurd).

I don't need to prove you're wrong, you're just a fucking idiot. Also there have been many studies on mmo psychology, and most players only play for the social experience, they dont actually give a fuck about the story (in mmo's). Which is moot anyways because the movie is about lore from wc1, which only sold ~1m copies, significantly less than the mmo has seen.
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May 21 2016 07:26pm
Quote (Blah58 @ May 22 2016 12:50am)
Let's make it more simple for you as you seem to have issues using your brain, the specific question:

How will Warcraft's reception from criitics and audiences compare to the Hobbit (2012)?

My reply:

How closely they stick to source material will decide how much Warcraft fans like it, the general public though... Who knows.

And then you trying to argue that people knowledgeable in Warcraft lore > people not knowledgeable (again, fucking absurd).

I don't need to prove you're wrong, you're just a fucking idiot. Also there have been many studies on mmo psychology, and most players only play for the social experience, they dont actually give a fuck about the story (in mmo's). Which is moot anyways because the movie is about lore from wc1, which only sold ~1m copies, significantly less than the mmo has seen.



You need an audience to receive film criticism. A larger audience creates more criticism, whether it is positive or negative. I don't understand why you're arguing this very simply point.

I'm not arguing how many people know lore vs those who don't. I don't have those numbers and neither do you. Plain and simple.

I am arguing the fact that Warcraft and world of Warcraft are EXTREMELY well known whether people have played any of the games or not. This creates a larger viewing audience which is open to more criticism....criticism that will either help or not help produce a sequel.


The reason I bring up world of Warcraft is because the people who have not played any of these games are going to view this movie as "world of Warcraft" because world of Warcraft is a much more popular and known game.



Also, it doesn't matter how many copies of Warcraft one sold....gaming is far bigger than it was in the 90s (although gaming was booming big time).

You would be greatly surprised how many people care about lore....games like final fantasy will greatly prove you wrong.


If they stick closely to Warcraft lore.....that's great, fans will enjoy that. I'm not even remotely arguing that point.


Just look at the transformers movies in comparison. They aren't rated well, aren't very well made movies, but still have a large enough audience to cater to which invites ticket sales and thus they continue pumping them out.

So, as much as i hate to say it, even if the Warcraft movie ends up being extremely poor, they are likely to have the large enough audience to create sequels.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on May 21 2016 07:38pm
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May 21 2016 09:42pm
Quote (Blah58 @ May 21 2016 08:02pm)
Then you tried to argue that a lot of people actually know Warcraft lore for some reason (which is fucking absurd). And now you are trying to change the conversation so you look less like a fool.


You and stupidkid282 each quoted this post:

Quote (Blah58 @ May 20 2016 03:18pm)
Warcraft is much less widely known than the hobbit. The movie looks like it is following the storyline it should be and not changing Warcraft lore too much. How closely they stick to source material will decide how much Warcraft fans like it, the general public though... Who knows.

For the hobbit the general public were aware of the story already, so it is a lot different than Warcraft.


The red line is the part that he bolded in his response. The blue part is the part you you bolded in your response. Those 2 parts of the post both present a different way of looking at it.

This post was edited by kayeto on May 21 2016 09:42pm
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Quote (kayeto @ May 21 2016 09:42pm)
You and stupidkid282 each quoted this post:



The red line is the part that he bolded in his response. The blue part is the part you you bolded in your response. Those 2 parts of the post both present a different way of looking at it.


Ok how about this.

The Hobbit has sold over 140 million copies.

WoW had a peak subscriber base of 12 million.

I know stupidkid is EXTREMELY stupid, so stupid in fact that it is surprising he knows how to computer, but that is a pretty big difference that even he should have a hard time arguing against.

I mean he will try but this topic is dead to me so I hope he spends a few hours trying to articulate his next response.
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May 21 2016 10:19pm
Quote (Blah58 @ May 22 2016 12:13am)
Ok how about this.

The Hobbit has sold over 140 million copies.

WoW had a peak subscriber base of 12 million.

I know stupidkid is EXTREMELY stupid, so stupid in fact that it is surprising he knows how to computer, but that is a pretty big difference that even he should have a hard time arguing against.

I mean he will try but this topic is dead to me so I hope he spends a few hours trying to articulate his next response.


ok how about this

Quote (kayeto @ May 20 2016 10:21pm)
I would agree that the number of people familiar with the plot of the Hobbit > the number of people who know the story of what is going to happen in this Warcraft movie.

But the overall strength of the Warcraft brand is pretty comparable to the Hobbit in 2016. Between the games, commercials, South Park, and word of mouth, most people are familiar with Warcraft as a fantasy universe.


The only question is, which of those 2 facts has a bigger effect on the reception of the movie?

This post was edited by kayeto on May 21 2016 10:20pm
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Quote (kayeto @ May 21 2016 10:19pm)
ok how about this



The only question is, which of those 2 facts has a bigger effect on the reception of the movie?


My answer to that has never changed

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The movie looks like it is following the storyline it should be and not changing Warcraft lore too much. How closely they stick to source material will decide how much Warcraft fans like it, the general public though... Who knows.
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May 21 2016 10:53pm
Quote (Blah58 @ May 22 2016 12:34am)
My answer to that has never changed


Well, you said that you think not many people are big enough fans to know the story already, so they are a minority. As for the response from the majority .. your "Who knows" isn't really an answer.
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May 22 2016 01:08am
Quote (dirTyMan @ May 21 2016 10:20pm)
Diablo movie would be incredible.


could be not would be
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Quote (BebebBurns @ May 22 2016 12:08am)
could be not would be


Would be better than a fucking WoW movie lol. Honestly, the one I'm waiting for is a SC movie, that'd be sick.
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