Quote (StephanePare @ Dec 5 2014 11:50am)

Tom and red were hinted to at least know each other personally

That Tom is ultimately working for them though, that was a big reveal. If he works for them, as red has, it's understandable how they know each other I guess. It would also make sense when he said he was working for someone more careful, more ruthless than Red, he probably didn't mean Berlin. Berlin was as careful and subtle as a hammer

As for who's Kate's fatter, they've hinted so heavily at Red, I'm sure it's a red herring

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Feb 8 2015 12:08am)

You'd think it'd have to be Red. I'm going to be pretty disappointed if it turns out to be some random guy who we've never seen, or only seen like once. Either Red is her father or Red killed her father, if it's the latter, Keen's father would of had to be a bad guy. They've tried to make us love Red the entire show. I honestly don't know if we'll get anything on this season though, this show is going to drag on and on for awhile I think. Any reveal, will be a partial reveal and it'll only open up questions to a bigger and better secret. It's been a good show and I'm pretty into it, they need to fucking give me something soon though or I'm going to start getting bored with it.

Perlman was awesome, I fucking love that guy.

Quote (James84 @ Feb 10 2015 11:23am)

Yes. He was in the fire, cause one scene they showed Reds back while he was putting on clothes, and it was all burnt.
Then 2-3 other scenes with plastic surgeons and/or doctors, they said you've changed and the work done on you was very good.

Which means, he got quite a full dose of that house fire, and from her recalections, her father got shot by ppl iso that "file", then was left to burn in the house, presumably alone.
So, if anyone else was in the house, for X reason, while it was fully flamed they also got burnt alot.

Idk, if he's the father or not. Cause now they're brought up a new twist, her thaughts could be fake, so who knows what the truth is. Who knows if even the truth is the truth, they can just keep twisted, her mind is messing with her bullshit and go round and around.

In any case, love the show.
I also like how they switched days, to help State of Affairs. I dont think is doing so well, but I have been enjoying that also. Not as much as Blacklist ofc :p

e - Or maybe, Red just got burnt, completely somewhere else that has nothing to do with her house. And they just showed and hinted about that to throw us off game :unsure:

Quote (Flameyes @ Feb 10 2015 08:12pm)

in the last episode they said that he was at the fire anyway, but it also said that he wasn't her father

I gave state of affairs a try but it was pretty boring imo

Quote (James84 @ Feb 10 2015 07:53pm)

Yes. She said, she saw him there, as one of the ppl coming Iso the file and that he worked for the coorporation behind her fathers death.
But again, they also said her thaughts have been tampered with, so... who knows whats real.

State of Affairs, is a much slower show, it's CIA crap, things take ages to be done. It's quite interesting for me.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Feb 11 2015 04:21am)

This. It was another clear sign pointing out Red being her real father. Obviously this show likes its mind fucks lol but it seems like Red has to be the daddy. Nothing else would really explain his insane need to protect her. I think Red has the Fulcrum, he always has and the only person that has any real knowledge of it, is Keen, his daughter. He got himself locked up to stop Pearlmen because he knew that it would eventually lead him to Keen, which was something he couldn't risk. He can't have anyone living know that she might be the only other person in the world that has that kind of secret hidden away. it would make her as big of a target as Red is and she's no fucking Red lol.

Quote (James84 @ Feb 11 2015 10:31pm)

Did you not see the last scene?
Keen tore up her teddy bear (the one she had from her childhood in that house) and a tech devie/usb/w.e was inside of it, I'm guessing that contains the ppl of the organization aka the Fulcrum.
So, if Red didn't know it was in the bear... who put it there? And how can he be her father?
Unless it was Tom who put it there while living with Liz, dum dum dum!!!! Which could change the above opinion drastically.

As soon as they showed her holding that bear, I knew it was hidden in it. Just the perks that comes with watching a ton of movies :p

Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Feb 11 2015 04:15pm)

Didn't red give her the rabbit in one episode? you'd think red would notice that there was something inside it.