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Quote (Rezzakin @ Dec 29 2021 10:06am)
True you got me there, but I wouldn't exactly go off Meta or Rotten tomatoes for every movie. Some feel rigged.
Also the Suicide squad only did 167m, which is quite small compared to Marvel films. You'd expect the ones who like the story and characters would see the movie and somewhat enjoy it. As someone who doesn't care for the characters, I can assure you the movie was not great. Everyone I went to see it thought it was one of the worst movies they've ever seen.



The difference in revenue streams from PG13 to R is a well known thing and it’s the main reason we don’t see more R rated comic films…

Plenty of great movies do poorly at the box office, if that was relevant, then Michael Bay would be an amazing director and Fast and the Furious would be one of the best franchises ever.

e: I mean shit, the Last Jedi took home 1.3 Billion, yet it's one of the most despised movies in my lifetime. Box office gains mean very little to me, almost as little as user reviews, as they constantly give anything Marvel a 95%+, unless it's "woke", meaning it has too many women in it, then it gets bombed down to a 50.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 29 2021 12:28pm
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The difference in revenue streams from PG13 to R is a well known thing and it’s the main reason we don’t see more R rated comic films…

Plenty of great movies do poorly at the box office, if that was relevant, then Michael Bay would be an amazing director and Fast and the Furious would be one of the best franchises ever.

e: I mean shit, the Last Jedi took home 1.3 Billion, yet it's one of the most despised movies in my lifetime. Box office gains mean very little to me, almost as little as user reviews, as they constantly give anything Marvel a 95%+, unless it's "woke", meaning it has too many women in it, then it gets bombed down to a 50.


Marvel is Pro, The Last Jedi was one of the greatest movies of all time. Keep Hiding :cry: :baby:
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The difference in revenue streams from PG13 to R is a well known thing and it’s the main reason we don’t see more R rated comic films…

Plenty of great movies do poorly at the box office, if that was relevant, then Michael Bay would be an amazing director and Fast and the Furious would be one of the best franchises ever.

e: I mean shit, the Last Jedi took home 1.3 Billion, yet it's one of the most despised movies in my lifetime. Box office gains mean very little to me, almost as little as user reviews, as they constantly give anything Marvel a 95%+, unless it's "woke", meaning it has too many women in it, then it gets bombed down to a 50.


The reason it bombed at the box office is not because of it being R rated. There are plenty of R rated movies that succeed extremely well into the high hundreds of millions. It bombed because it's not a very good movie lol. And the characters are boring.

And that wasn't even my point. You can go on an on about Fast 9 and the last jedi. What I'm trying to say is that not many people went to see The Suicide Squad. The few that did go probably went because they're fans of the comics and what not, thus skewing the results in favor of enjoying the movie.

I'm telling you, it was pretty bad lol.

DC should honestly just stick to what they're great at. Steer away from trying to be as good as Marvel in the superhero department and make more movies like the Joker. Which suits their heroes better anyways, since Marvel has way cooler "superheroes". And they've nailed the market already.

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The reason it bombed at the box office is not because of it being R rated. There are plenty of R rated movies that succeed extremely well into the high hundreds of millions. It bombed because it's not a very good movie lol. And the characters are boring.

And that wasn't even my point. You can go on an on about Fast 9 and the last jedi. What I'm trying to say is that not many people went to see The Suicide Squad. The few that did go probably went because they're fans of the comics and what not, thus skewing the results in favor of enjoying the movie.

I'm telling you, it was pretty bad lol.

DC should honestly just stick to what they're great at. Steer away from trying to be as good as Marvel in the superhero department and make more movies like the Joker. Which suits their heroes better anyways, since Marvel has way cooler "superheroes". And they've nailed the market already.



Yet critics, fans, and the few people here who consistently review movies fairly disagree…. I think I’ll take that as opposed to your opinion of it being bad because the characters were “boring”. It’s honestly better than everything Marvel has done with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 films.

You, like most people, are probably content seeing the same movie over and over and over. I personally can’t fucking stand it. I’ll give Marvel credit where it’s due, there’s no one better at pandering to the masses than them. Funny enough, they learned a harsh lesson from this. They followed the same boring and overused formula that they always do for Star Wars, but the fans rejected it. It’s almost identical to every one of their Marvel movies, yet one is lauded as a masterpiece and the other trash. It’s almost like when put under even the slightest scrutiny, their fans realize how heavy handed and bland their content is.

Going back to box office though, the first Suicide Squad which was a steaming pile of dog shit, grossed almost 800M. Seeing as the other comparisons I did weren’t good enough for you, maybe that’ll work. You and plenty of others, really need to stop equating quality to box office success, cause they’re seldom the same. The same tired shit is what sells at the box office, with the occasional surprise hit. Anything that goes away from the mold tends to fall flat, even if it’s superior in almost every way.

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Yet critics, fans, and the few people here who consistently review movies fairly disagree…. I think I’ll take that as opposed to your opinion of it being bad because the characters were “boring”. It’s honestly better than everything Marvel has done with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 films.

You, like most people, are probably content seeing the same movie over and over and over. I personally can’t fucking stand it. I’ll give Marvel credit where it’s due, there’s no one better at pandering to the masses than them. Funny enough, they learned a harsh lesson from this. They followed the same boring and overused formula that they always do for Star Wars, but the fans rejected it. It’s almost identical to every one of their Marvel movies, yet one is lauded as a masterpiece and the other trash. It’s almost like when put under even the slightest scrutiny, their fans realize how heavy handed and bland their content is.

Going back to box office though, the first Suicide Squad which was a steaming pile of dog shit, grossed almost 800M. Seeing as the other comparisons I did weren’t good enough for you, maybe that’ll work. You and plenty of others, really need to stop equating quality to box office success, cause they’re seldom the same. The same tired shit is what sells at the box office, with the occasional surprise hit. Anything that goes away from the mold tends to fall flat, even if it’s superior in almost every way.


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Yet critics, fans, and the few people here who consistently review movies fairly disagree…. I think I’ll take that as opposed to your opinion of it being bad because the characters were “boring”. It’s honestly better than everything Marvel has done with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 films.

You, like most people, are probably content seeing the same movie over and over and over. I personally can’t fucking stand it. I’ll give Marvel credit where it’s due, there’s no one better at pandering to the masses than them. Funny enough, they learned a harsh lesson from this. They followed the same boring and overused formula that they always do for Star Wars, but the fans rejected it. It’s almost identical to every one of their Marvel movies, yet one is lauded as a masterpiece and the other trash. It’s almost like when put under even the slightest scrutiny, their fans realize how heavy handed and bland their content is.

Going back to box office though, the first Suicide Squad which was a steaming pile of dog shit, grossed almost 800M. Seeing as the other comparisons I did weren’t good enough for you, maybe that’ll work. You and plenty of others, really need to stop equating quality to box office success, cause they’re seldom the same. The same tired shit is what sells at the box office, with the occasional surprise hit. Anything that goes away from the mold tends to fall flat, even if it’s superior in almost every way.


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pm ur psn and lets get down, so i can show you whos BOSS



Why would I ever play anything with you? You’ve never once added something to a conversation and you follow me around berating me in every forum I frequent….

I know you’re bad, because you again struggled with freaking Yakuza, and you bragged about getting 100% on a game that takes no effort and isn’t even a long grind.

I’ve tried on numerous occasions being decent to you man, but that’s not what you use this account for.
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Why would I ever play anything with you? You’ve never once added something to a conversation and you follow me around berating me in every forum I frequent….

I know you’re bad, because you again struggled with freaking Yakuza, and you bragged about getting 100% on a game that takes no effort and isn’t even a long grind.

I’ve tried on numerous occasions being decent to you man, but that’s not what you use this account for.


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Quote (Rezzakin @ 29 Dec 2021 12:25)
The reason it bombed at the box office is not because of it being R rated. There are plenty of R rated movies that succeed extremely well into the high hundreds of millions. It bombed because it's not a very good movie lol. And the characters are boring.

And that wasn't even my point. You can go on an on about Fast 9 and the last jedi. What I'm trying to say is that not many people went to see The Suicide Squad. The few that did go probably went because they're fans of the comics and what not, thus skewing the results in favor of enjoying the movie.

I'm telling you, it was pretty bad lol.

DC should honestly just stick to what they're great at. Steer away from trying to be as good as Marvel in the superhero department and make more movies like the Joker. Which suits their heroes better anyways, since Marvel has way cooler "superheroes". And they've nailed the market already.


Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 29 Dec 2021 12:43)
Yet critics, fans, and the few people here who consistently review movies fairly disagree…. I think I’ll take that as opposed to your opinion of it being bad because the characters were “boring”. It’s honestly better than everything Marvel has done with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 films.

You, like most people, are probably content seeing the same movie over and over and over. I personally can’t fucking stand it. I’ll give Marvel credit where it’s due, there’s no one better at pandering to the masses than them. Funny enough, they learned a harsh lesson from this. They followed the same boring and overused formula that they always do for Star Wars, but the fans rejected it. It’s almost identical to every one of their Marvel movies, yet one is lauded as a masterpiece and the other trash. It’s almost like when put under even the slightest scrutiny, their fans realize how heavy handed and bland their content is.

Going back to box office though, the first Suicide Squad which was a steaming pile of dog shit, grossed almost 800M. Seeing as the other comparisons I did weren’t good enough for you, maybe that’ll work. You and plenty of others, really need to stop equating quality to box office success, cause they’re seldom the same. The same tired shit is what sells at the box office, with the occasional surprise hit. Anything that goes away from the mold tends to fall flat, even if it’s superior in almost every way.


The reason I referenced RT is because a lot of idiots, including on jsp think it matters. But I also provided Metacritic because meta is an actual good review aggregate website.

Now I'm not in the industry or anything but I think an R rated movie releasing in the middle of a global pandemic to movie theaters AND streaming services at the same time might have low box office numbers for reasons completely unrelated to how good or bad the movie is. 🤔
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