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#31
Sep 14 2018 01:00pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 14 2018 01:09pm)


Funny how the media works these days.

Black Panther and Wonder Woman are both raved as revolutionary films when they were mediocre at best and maybe slightly above average if someone is being overly generous. I wonder why they were praised so much, hmmmmmmm, what could it possibly be?


You nailed it
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Sep 14 2018 01:05pm
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The first one wasn't even good, why would you care about the sequels?


wonderwoman was good, maybe not great but definitely not mediocre, best thing to come out of the dceu so far and one of the better superhero movies in general

the only thing that i didn't like from memory was ares casting, but that was probably intentional to make it more surprising

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#33
Sep 14 2018 02:25pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 14 2018 10:26am)
What you're saying is that if they tried to copy Marvel "they'd do a lot better". Dark works. Nolan killed it by creating a dark/gritty Batman universe. It worked with V for Vendetta, Watchman, and Logan as well. All of those movies are vastly superior to almost everything Marvel has ever done. DC has been on the right track, but they keep shooting themselves in the fucking leg by hiring mediocre-shit directors/writers and by allowing the studio to meddle with the final product as much as they have.

e: I would MUCH prefer DC to keep doing it their own way vs giving in and copying Marvel to try and cater to the masses of cretins who think CGI and bad one-liners equal a great film.



Dark stories don’t work with all superheroes.
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#34
Sep 14 2018 03:10pm
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wonderwoman was good, maybe not great but definitely not mediocre, best thing to come out of the dceu so far and one of the better superhero movies in general

the only thing that i didn't like from memory was ares casting, but that was probably intentional to make it more surprising


If you say so. Already explained why it was mediocre. The few things they did well they completely ruined with the giant fuck you to the audience by how it ended. Oh, forget about this decently written moral we've been pushing, here's a CGI FIGHT WOOOOOOO!!!!! FUCK PLOT!!!!!!

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Dark stories don’t work with all superheroes.


Of course not, but it can be made to work with most heroes.

There is soooo fucking much source material and dark side stories or w/e that the DC universe if they wanted to remain dark, could do it easily with almost all of their major characters. Once again, the major problems have been network meddling and terrible scripts.

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Sep 14 2018 06:21pm
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Heavily disagree. It was okay at best. It was above average for what we've come to expect out of DC, but overall it wasn't worth the time. Over the top effects, bad acting, bad story, and a moral that was actually decent until they said, hey, fuck this moral we've been pushing to the viewers the entire movie, lets have two gods duke it out, that's much more entertaining than a cohesive and complete story.



Funny how the media works these days.

Black Panther and Wonder Woman are both raved as revolutionary films when they were mediocre at best and maybe slightly above average if someone is being overly generous. I wonder why they were praised so much, hmmmmmmm, what could it possibly be?


I couldn't give less of a shit that black panther and ww starred black people/women, the fact that anyone would praise a movie solely for either of those reasons is retarded

That being said I just enjoyed ww, it was fun to watch

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#36
Sep 14 2018 07:00pm
Tbh DC needs a Kevin Feige.
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Sep 14 2018 10:19pm
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I couldn't give less of a shit that black panther and ww starred black people/women, the fact that anyone would praise a movie solely for either of those reasons is retarded

That being said I just enjoyed ww, it was fun to watch


That's great and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've given my reasons for why I believe it was yet another subpar superhero film and it's clear the only reason it was reviewed as highly as it was, was because it had a female lead.
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#38
Sep 15 2018 01:52am
Quote (Blah58 @ Sep 14 2018 05:00pm)
Tbh DC needs a Kevin Feige.


haha i agree
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#39
Sep 15 2018 03:51am
Quote (NebulahFrost @ Sep 15 2018 12:52am)
haha i agree


I don't mean specifically him. Just a creative head for the entire universe that isn't a boardroom, someone with actual passion and vision.

Or just follow the comics better. The DC animated movies are better than anything Marvel has ever done.
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#40
Sep 18 2018 04:47am
Does it matter? The movie is going to be a pile of baby shit anyways. Who cares.
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