Everything you said is wrong, no need to pick specifics out.

Rey and Kylo are obviously going to face off in a Vader vs Luke showdown with full knowledge of who each other are eventually. Whether they are cousins or siblings isn't known.

I feel siblings would be better but I also would prefer her being Luke's daughter. I feel she is definitely Hans though.

This post was edited by fuzzy159 on Dec 23 2015 04:21pm

Really? So Han Solo does talk about Rey to Leia? What does he say?
And when Rey sits down in the co-pilot seat, Han Solo doesn't say "I already have a co-pilot" and points at Chewbacca?
And when Han Solo first boards the Falcon, he doesn't just ignore Rey and instead is lovingly inspecting the ship?
And when Han gives Rey the blaster and she says "You just pull the trigger, right?", he doesn't roll his eyes and sarcastically say "There's a little more to it than that"?

What I said is factually true, it's not even a matter of opinion. These are things that happened in the movie, they are not interpretations or guesses. You either didn't watch it or you know that you are wrong but can't admit it.

The way I saw it, Han feels a connection to her without knowing exactly what it is. The movie lets the audience put the details together specifically.

Brother vs sister would be a much more dramatic story line as opposed to cousin vs cousin.

That's why I lean towards Rey being Han's child.
Maybe they were led to believe their daughter died during Kylos assault on the jedi?

They'll feel a connection to her but if they're assuming thier daughters already dead..

All will be revealed eh

This post was edited by WelSh on Dec 23 2015 08:37pm

Leia is force sensitive, she sensed hans death. I don't think Rey is her+Hans daughter.

Especially considering you can make the argument that Han is also force sensitive.

Everything he said was spot on, not sure what you're on about.

It's clear they have a connection (not necessarily blood) and also clear if there is a blood relation Han is oblivious. How about when she was captured (by his son) she clearly wasn't his priority at that time. This doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a blood relation, it could be possible Han just didn't know, although the timeline would be confusing if that was the case. What are the ages of the kids and what age did son go dark, keeping in mind Han stayed with Leia up until the son's conversion to dark side.

I think more evidence points to a Skywalker though. The bonding they shared was quite similar to the bonding shared in episode 4. Unpredicted run-in with the empire and the same job offering to each afterwards. Combined with the lack of "parental" affection from Leia and Han, especially when compared to their feelings of the evil son. The strongest evidence I think exists is the failure of a fitting timeline with a coexistence of siblings. She was a kid when she was dropped off and evil son would already have been teenage to kill off all the other students. Evil son does not appear to be at least a decade older than hypothetical "sister." Cousin I could easily see however

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 23 2015 11:35pm

The prolonged hug at the end between Leia/Rey felt a little more intimate than it should have for 2 people who just met each other. My perception, Leia's force sensitivity revealed that Rey was her daughter despite having no tangible worldly proof of it.

again, timeline without han knowing is difficult to explain

a blood connection through luke would explain the intimate connection while also the lack of affection

I'm not partial to Rey being Luke's because:

- It begs the question of who this mystery woman is that Luke banged (Mara Jade?). Since this trilogy will not have the time or scope to explore it fully enough to make it fit naturally, it would leave things feeling a little hanging. The prequel trilogy was forced to create the Padme story which was a stupid plot line because her relationship with Anakin was the only reason she was there.

- Rey's connection with Kylo is obviously the core of the story, so having them be twins keeps everything tighter than if they were merely cousins.


I don't agree at all. I think it is exactly the type of thing this movie would try to pull off, even if they do it poorly.

Ep7 was a copy of Ep4. The original trilogy saw Vader go through most of his life not knowing about his kids. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they try to pull something similar with this story.

For reference, let's look at Luke's childhood. They tried to "hide him" from Anakin by dropping him off to live with his uncle down the road from Obi-Wan, at the old family farm and had him keep the name Skywalker. Darth Vader, a powerful member of the Empire with access to any searching technology in the galaxy and a magical power to sense connections from thin air never caught on? The only way Luke would not be found is if Vader wasn't looking at all or didn't care. It makes no sense really, but that's how movies go.

This post was edited by kayeto on Dec 24 2015 12:26am