i looked at the scene and almost quit the episode when i saw it. white checked black moving the queen next to the king, then wells decides to ignore it and move his rook to check the white king. and it isn't even mate! knight can take the rook. and there is no simple forced mate on the board that i could see. they almost always fuck it up. the good thing about HP is they actually hired someone who knew chess, and they picked a famous chess game for the match in the first movie.

i just looked at it again. dialog makes it sound like they made those moves in sequence, but then white has 3 knights on the board. so more likely the moves from white declaring check to black declaring checkmate was much farther than just 1 move apart.




i hate how they structure the game as "oh i'm winning, i'm winning! wait...i got mated wtfx" in almost every movie you see. you almost always see the mate coming in a slow game.... the chess references is my main criticism in code geass as well.

This post was edited by carteblanche on Jan 28 2015 08:06pm

Oh god here we fucking go...

Shooting a supersonic bullet at flash from behind at nearly point blank and he catches it.

Why? Why did they have to do it like that? You can't. I don't fucking care if you're the flash. You can't "hear it and catch it". The bullet travels faster than the sound it makes.


uuuuuuuugh. Fuck.

You sure do fine the most inane things to complain about.

1. He didn't really catch the bullet, he diverted it. Not the first time he dodged bullet though, nor is there a lack of precedent in the comic for the reaction. If you remember, he was still struck before his reactionary speed kicked in.

Caitlin: This is a bullet wound, you're lucky it just barely broke the skin.

It's a throwback to an issue from the 90's where barry is sitting in a movie theatre and time suddenly stops for everyone around him, except him. He looks back and there's a bullet that has frozen in midair against the back of his head.

I don't see how it's insane for me to find it ridiculous for the TV show to go against canon work done literally not even a year ago.

Flashpoint Paradox does it perfectly right. Batman shoots RF from behind in the head and RF dies because he can't react to the sound since the bullet travels faster. And then they basically redo that scene on TV and Flash diverts it? By the time the sound gets to his ear, he's dead. You can't break that rule.

They could've just as easily made flash face the shooter and I would've been all for him diverting, dodging or catching the bullet. Especially since he's been training for a few episodes now. It was as simple as not having his back to the shooter. I think I have every right to be upset about that. No matter how you try to explain it, the scene clearly shows him react to the gunshot sound and that's not possible even in their reality.

Against canon work? Flashpoint paradox actually went against establish canon, especially given that it's an adaptation of the comic flashpoint and changed a few things, so to use that as your argument is funny. Zoom should've been able to dodge that. In fact, there are plenty of people still questioning why they allowed it when previous instances(that is plural, not singular), Barry has been struck by a round, still wounded, but able to divert it and get out of the way, rounds that struck him from behind)

My explanation actually has roots in canon, yours does not. By established canon, zoom should've been able to dodge the bullet because Barry has on more than one occasion. It was also a textbook villian gloat tv trope, which often exist outside of canon where a hero is able to take out a villain. So no, you do not have every right to be upset by it. Like I said, you find the most inane things to complain about, things that if you did even a little bit of research on, you'd see that your complaint is wrong.

Now given in previous instances in the show, they go to a x-ray shot of his head to show the bones in his ear reacting to a sound, had they used that here, then you would have a small argument for inconsistencies.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Feb 4 2015 03:48pm

Well I'm not one to go on and on trying to save face if I'm wrong.

If they have some way of explaining why he was able to divert that bullet that I didn't know about, then so be it.

It just felt very off to have something from 2014 be essentially recreated with a different outcome. Also the fact that TV show Barry isn't anywhere near his potential power makes these kinds of things much less believable.

Flashpoint Paradox vs The Flash TV show.

I will start with the TV show, let us go back to the episode where Oliver Queen started training The Flash, in this episode, the flash got shot in the back by arrows [no sound like a gun].
This training intoduced a different way of encountering other scenarios etc... so, outside of sound vs the speed of a bullet, Barry Allen is now accustomed to think outside of the square,
but in saying so, he has to be intuned with the surrounding areas... and since in this last episode, he learnt from Oliver and was able to use INSTINCT to dodge that bullet because he was
looking at all aspects.

I have watched the Flashpoint Paradox, great animation and yes... "Zoom" got killed because he had no other skills taught to him, he ONLY relied on his speed.

This would make sense if it was depicted that way in the show. Like "Hum, haven't seen the guy she was with, I should be careful".

It was really just him reacting to the sound in the scene.


I think the only explanation I could POSSIBLY accept that I can currently think of is that as soon as the bullet touched his skin, he reacted. But that's still faster than what current state Barry should be able to do and it's not what was shown on the show.

This post was edited by CMBurns on Feb 4 2015 10:12pm

http://imgur.com/6PnqlXd

LMAOOO, dr wells struggling to use a wheelchair


http://imgur.com/yy6eH4G

Gif of GG at the end

This post was edited by FamilyGuyViewer on Feb 4 2015 10:31pm