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Dec 31 2015 06:36pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Dec 31 2015 05:25pm)
Somehow on a junkyard planet Rey learned to become a master duelist, a master mechanic, a master pilot (she clearly cannot afford a ship), speaks droid and understands shryiiwook, becomes a master marksmen after two shots, and manages to do in 20 minutes what took Luke 3 years to do(ESB was 3 years from ANH.)


Great points, I hadn't even considered her non force abilities.
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Dec 31 2015 06:55pm
Quote (nineinchnailz @ Jan 1 2016 12:33am)
Kylo being injured doesn't teach someone how to use mind control before that ever happened. For the first time ever we got a female jedi main character, great. That's a victory for feminism. I'm fine with that. I dont resent that at all. We have 6 previous movies where no one can learn these methods instantly on their own with no training, not even the son of the force himself anakin skywalker. That makes it painfully clear there is an agenda being pushed here and THAT is what I resent. Just tell a great story, leave your agenda out of it. If the main character is a girl, or black, i could care less. That's not a sexist comment that's a legit complaint. There needs to be some explanation forthcoming as to how she knows these techniques, because this movie does not exist by itself, there is an established star wars universe and these new owners should take care in it's continuity.



You're thinking way too much about any feminism movement within the movie.....

You're making too many assumptions about things you, and I don't know about and cannot Confirm for sure.

You forget about Luke using "the force" very early when using the lightsaber on the training droid on the milenium falcon. You forget that, in Luke's very early training, luke raises his xwing out of a swamp.

Using the force to grab a lightsaber, I would imagine, doesn't take a whole lot of strength, as Luke also did it in the beginning of the empire strikes back.

Maybe she can focus better, who knows....? Stop placing "hidden agendas" into the movie that cannot be confirmed as being legitement.

Everything that happens can be explained with common sense and logic. You just aren't capable of using logic.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Dec 31 2015 07:01pm
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Dec 31 2015 07:01pm
Quote (nineinchnailz @ Dec 31 2015 06:35pm)
Training to be a jedi her entire life? She says herself she thought luke skywalker was a myth. Training how to fight? Sure. How to be a jedi? To use mind control and force push objects? No.


Lol buddy did I say training to be a Jedi? Learn to read maybe?

/e: and the scene where kylo tried to interrogate her with the force is the scene where she started her Jedi training. If you actually paid attention to the movie instead of ignoring everything that doesn't suit your own narration of trying to make the movie bad...

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Dec 31 2015 07:09pm
Where has she been training and who has been teacher her how to be a master marksmen, master duelist, master pilot, master mechanic, speak droid and speak shyriiwook, because they showed nothing in the movie except the end result of your said training.
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Dec 31 2015 07:18pm
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Where has she been training and who has been teacher her how to be a master marksmen, master duelist, master pilot, master mechanic, speak droid and speak shyriiwook, because they showed nothing in the movie except the end result of your said training.


No you are right she just sat on her ass for 20 years alone on a scavenger planet doing nothing until the start of the movie.
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Dec 31 2015 07:18pm
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Where has she been training and who has been teacher her how to be a master marksmen, master duelist, master pilot, master mechanic, speak droid and speak shyriiwook, because they showed nothing in the movie except the end result of your said training.


Who trained Ani when he was like 8 years old?

Master mechanic, master pilot, spoke droid?
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Dec 31 2015 07:19pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Jan 1 2016 01:09am)
Where has she been training and who has been teacher her how to be a master marksmen, master duelist, master pilot, master mechanic, speak droid and speak shyriiwook, because they showed nothing in the movie except the end result of your said training.


Why is it so unbelievable that people can't be selfsufficient?

Nobody "needs" to be trained in the force. If you are capable of performing the force, then you can perform it yourself.

Training only helps explore different force moves, strength, focus, and control.
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Dec 31 2015 07:25pm
Quote (WelSh @ Dec 31 2015 06:18pm)
Who trained Ani when he was like 8 years old?

Master mechanic, master pilot, spoke droid?



Bro,he was a slave since birth for Watto. He was a driver for Watto for years. He worked in a fucking mechanics shop where he had to build/repair droids and work on ships...
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Dec 31 2015 07:26pm
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Bro,he was a slave since birth for Watto. He was a driver for Watto for years. He worked in a fucking mechanics shop where he had to build/repair droids and work on ships...


And what was rey doing? Just playing with sand? Did you see who she was left with?
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Dec 31 2015 07:28pm
Quote (WelSh @ Dec 31 2015 06:26pm)
And what was rey doing? Just playing with sand? Did you see who she was left with?


She wasn't left with anything/anyone. She lived in a broken down ship, and was too afraid to walk more than a few miles from her little ship in case her parents came back.

It's hard to believe she became a master of masters at a pawn shop.
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