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Jul 28 2017 04:24am
Quote (Blah58 @ 28 Jul 2017 11:59)
Obviously the friend was insecure, the list was still the catalyst though. Saying that it was meaningless or played no part or that it is just silly is ignoring the issue which is very clearly there.

I mean if someone throws a match on a pile of gasoline cans and burns down a building he can't really say 'well it isn't my fault I just threw the match, there shouldn't have been gasoline around!'


But, the same thing could have happened if he was just staring at Hannah's ass and his gf got mad. Would that be bullying? I don't think so. It's insensitive, uncool and you could argue there's a certain degree of betrayal towards his gf depending on how liberal they are abut these things, but it wouldn't be him bullying anyone. My point is that they are bullying Hannah because of their shit attitude towards her, not because of some list.
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Jul 28 2017 04:30am
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The list is sexual harrassment. This is exactly what the show is trying (and successfully) to convey. This type of behavior is NOT okay. You're trying to justify that it's okay because it happens in a high school atmosphere, and while yes, it does happen in a high school atmosphere, it's not right.

Like cat calling.....it's harrassment. Maybe "some" girls enjoy it, but most don't.

This show's main objective is to show various types of bullying or harrassment, and how they can negatively impact someone, in addiction to showing that people may not think they are bullying or harassing, but they are.


You are wrong. Stop trying to push your bullshit meanings onto things.

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13 Reasons Why showrunner Brian Yorkey tells Vanity Fair that his mission was to present suicide as something that’s painful and horrific—and certainly never an easy way out.


The show is about suicide prevention, that is why everything around suicide is so perfectly done whereas everything else is kind of washed over and unrealistic. It is about how actions have consequences, not just bullying (however bullying is a part of it). But the bullying didn't actually matter beyond it existing in some form. If the main focus was supposed to be bullying then the show would have done a much better job in that area, but it didn't because it isn't.

Quote (zarkadon @ Jul 28 2017 03:24am)
But, the same thing could have happened if he was just staring at Hannah's ass and his gf got mad. Would that be bullying? I don't think so. It's insensitive, uncool and you could argue there's a certain degree of betrayal towards his gf depending on how liberal they are abut these things, but it wouldn't be him bullying anyone. My point is that they are bullying Hannah because of their shit attitude towards her, not because of some list.


The list is different than looking. The same thing wouldn't have happened if she just saw him looking because looking is solitary, the list isn't. The list shows contemplation, forethought, and in the friends eyes some sort of consorting between hannah and her boyfriend. The list is also public humiliation for the friend, knowing everyone knew her boyfriend put someone else on the list above her.

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Jul 28 2017 05:50am
Quote (Blah58 @ Jul 28 2017 10:30am)
You are wrong. Stop trying to push your bullshit meanings onto things.



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I'm not even close to being wrong.

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EVERY episode shows different instances of bullying/harassment and how it had an impact on Hannah OR other cast members.

It's literally what the show is about.




Do I go DEEPER than a basic synopsis, yes, but that doesn't make me wrong.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jul 28 2017 06:05am
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Jul 28 2017 08:18am
Are you 16?

Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jul 28 2017 07:50am)
I'm not even close to being wrong.

.....

EVERY episode shows different instances of bullying/harassment and how it had an impact on Hannah OR other cast members.

It's literally what the show is about.




Do I go DEEPER than a basic synopsis, yes, but that doesn't make me wrong.


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Jul 28 2017 08:28am
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Are you 16?


No, I am 28.

If you have something reasonable to respond with, go for it, otherwise, irrelevant comments will be spam.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jul 28 2017 08:28am
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No, I am 28.

If you have something reasonable to respond with, go for it, otherwise, irrelevant comments will be spam.


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Jul 28 2017 09:34am
Who the fuck watches this teen chick flick?
Srsly must be a thousand better tv series...
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Jul 28 2017 09:52am
Quote (chelsea11 @ Jul 28 2017 03:34pm)
Who the fuck watches this teen chick flick?
Srsly must be a thousand better tv series...


Millions of adults and teens have enjoyed it.


Did you know that your tastes are not the center of the world?

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jul 28 2017 09:54am
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Jul 28 2017 11:09am
^ invalid cos not marvel :rofl:
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Jul 28 2017 11:12am
Quote (zarkadon @ Jul 28 2017 05:28am)
iirc the guys were either ignoring her, trash talking about her, or making air-humping gestures behind her back. Of course they weren't treating her like the treat the photograph pervert weirdo guy, but they weren't treating her like they would treat a cute girl in highschool.




You contradicted yourself so hard right off the bat that I'm starting to think you are too old to have an idea what actually goes in high school these days.

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