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Dec 23 2019 11:05am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 23 2019 11:03am)
Show me where I said I liked TLJ.

Maybe you should rewatch the prequels and realize how stupid you look right now.


you just got fucked up on math and the movie you're defending lol.

your response: (im just gonna ignore that i clearly dont know physics or the made up rules of shields i lazily tried to bring up) "i didnt say i like it" (lame vague attempt to get in a last dig)

lmk when u have something that i can also tear through like an X wing at light speed.
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Dec 23 2019 11:15am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 23 2019 06:05pm)
you just got fucked up on math and the movie you're defending lol.

your response: (im just gonna ignore that i clearly dont know physics or the made up rules of shields i lazily tried to bring up) "i didnt say i like it" (lame vague attempt to get in a last dig)

lmk when u have something that i can also tear through like an X wing at light speed.


You are using physics to nitpick a movie based on a religion that uses a magical force to manipulate matter. Do you realize how stupid you look? This isn't a true story so calm down Albert Einstein.

Also, you literally just pointed out how TLJ is actually the only good movie. Clearly your physics knowledge proved how smart using aircraft to destroy ships is. So wouldn't that mean the other movies are stupid for ignoring this obvious fact that you graced us with? Wouldn't TLJ be the only good movie for exploiting this knowledge?
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Dec 23 2019 11:44am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 23 2019 11:15am)
You are using physics to nitpick a movie based on a religion that uses a magical force to manipulate matter. Do you realize how stupid you look? This isn't a true story so calm down Albert Einstein.

Also, you literally just pointed out how TLJ is actually the only good movie. Clearly your physics knowledge proved how smart using aircraft to destroy ships is. So wouldn't that mean the other movies are stupid for ignoring this obvious fact that you graced us with? Wouldn't TLJ be the only good movie for exploiting this knowledge?


you're arguing yourself here.

i used the numbers we use in physics to illustrate my point, not factually frame it. how light speed works versus shields is straight from the movies. something u obviously forgot, and are trying to ignore so u can look like u didnt forget it. u did. we all know, its ok bud.

my point from the start isnt that Haldo's move was dumb, it was that it retcons the series and makes everyone dumb. so thanks for agreeing with me. the fact that it was never tried was due to some unwritten rule, which wasn't just broken without explaining. in fact they said all shields cant block light speed objects, so it ruined all of the other battles. they didnt exploit knowledge, they created it, so they could have a deus ex machinma to subvert expectations. i wont bother to ask if u know what a DEM is, clearly thats too tough of a concept.

something comes along that ruins all the old movies and your response is "finally, someone did it different and because it ruins the old stuff this one is best". its like saying Crystal pepsi is the best pepsi.

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Dec 23 2019 12:25pm
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TLJ is the worst movie by far of the 9. It's not up for debate. The only one that's even close to it's level of shit is Attack of the clones.


You are an idiot if you actually think TLJ is worse than attack of the clones. Legitimately. I honestly have no idea where all the prequel love has come from recently, but it is wholly undeserved.


Quote (djman72 @ Dec 23 2019 07:39am)
Holdo just flew that shit right into the cruiser and it caused so many issues for SW. Why weren't people sending unmanned ships into their enemies at all times?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Star Wars has ever shown auto pilot light speed. Also it isn't unreasonable to assume the fact that Holdo used a massive cruiser as being the main factor in the success of that attack. I know you've been trying to argue against this point already, and I'm not going to bother trying to convince you, but it makes sense.

Quote (djman72 @ Dec 23 2019 07:39am)
One missile blew up the DS, with a purpose. They explained the weakness and we had knowledge of why, what, how.


Do you know what a grate is? Let's pretend for a moment that the death Star needing a massive opening for heat reasons makes any amount of sense, seems like one gratey boy would have saved them a lot of trouble.

Or the second death star, didn't have the same weakness, yet the resistance was able to fly into it some how, nothing was ever explained about that, don't see you bitching about that though?

Quote (djman72 @ Dec 23 2019 07:39am)
When TLJ ended, no one knew who the villain was..... It's one of the worst parts about the film.


When TLJ ended it was very clear that Kylo was the villian. JJ pussied out and redeemed him extremely early in RoS because of all the fanbabies who cried that kylo was supposed to be redeemed.

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Quote (Blah58 @ Dec 23 2019 12:25pm)
You are an idiot if you actually think TLJ is worse than attack of the clones. Legitimately. I honestly have no idea where all the prequel love has come from recently, but it is wholly undeserved.




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Star Wars has ever shown auto pilot light speed. Also it isn't unreasonable to assume the fact that Holdo used a massive cruiser as being the main factor in the success of that attack. I know you've been trying to argue against this point already, and I'm not going to bother trying to convince you, but it makes sense.



Do you know what a grate is? Let's pretend for a moment that the death Star being a massive opening for heat reasons makes any amount of sense, seems like one gratey boy would have saved them a lot of trouble.

Or the second death star, didn't have the same weakness, yet the resistance was able to fly into it some how, nothing was ever explained about that, don't see you bitching about that though?



When TLJ ended it was very clear that Kylo was the villian. JJ pussied out and redeemed him extremely early in RoS because all the fanbabies who cried that kylo was supposed to be redeemed.


lol k @ bold. Lots of funny assumptions.

TLJ is the worst of the 9 and i'm sorry if you feel otherwise.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 23 2019 10:02am)
its almost like in TLJ, aka that movie you like, they said that the shields refresh rate makes it so it can block anything going slower than the speed of light.


Actually, that was said in FA not TLJ, and was specifically referencing the shield of Star Killer Base, not the basic generic shielding technology of the Star Wars universe.
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Dec 23 2019 12:31pm
Quote (djman72 @ Dec 23 2019 11:28am)
lol k @ bold. Lots of funny assumptions.

TLJ is the worst of the 9 and i'm sorry if you feel otherwise.


Good job showing you don't have a single fucking foot to stand on.
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Dec 23 2019 12:35pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Dec 23 2019 12:30pm)
Actually, that was said in FA not TLJ, and was specifically referencing the shield of Star Killer Base, not the basic generic shielding technology of the Star Wars universe.


Ok, so how did general Holdo ram snokes ship?

if it had shields that could block items going slower than light speed the ship would have bounced off it.

Rian/JJ wrote themselves into a corner, they're in one hand saying "items as fast as the speed of light cant be blocked by shields" but also has ships flying at light speed, which would mean any debris in space (and there's a lot) would tear a ship apart and leak right through their shields.

there's a reason Lucas didnt involve passing light speed shields, its because it makes light speed travel impossible. but JJ and Rian had to drop a "muh story" on everyone because they're lazy.

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Dec 23 2019 12:49pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 23 2019 07:35pm)
Ok, so how did general Holdo ram snokes ship?

if it had shields that could block items going slower than light speed the ship would have bounced off it.

Rian/JJ wrote themselves into a corner, they're in one hand saying "items as fast as the speed of light cant be blocked by shields" but also has ships flying at light speed, which would mean any debris in space (and there's a lot) would tear a ship apart and leak right through their shields.

there's a reason Lucas didnt involve passing light speed shields, its because it makes light speed travel impossible. but JJ and Rian had to drop a "muh story" on everyone because they're lazy.


George Lucas has plenty of plot holes in his 6 movies. You just choose to ignore them.
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Dec 23 2019 12:53pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 23 2019 12:49pm)
George Lucas has plenty of plot holes in his 6 movies. You just choose to ignore them.


were discussing which is best, not which is perfect.

i'm not bringing up plot holes to suggest the original trilogies have none. im bringing them up because they're an order of magnitude worse.

JJ/Rian fucked up stuff not just from their trilogy, but from all 3.

you dont like cuddly bears or wierd sea living aliens beating the empire, fine. but how does that change anything from the sequel trilogy? it doesnt, obviously.

whereas fucking up light speed messes with all 3 trilogies.

and most of the fuck ups in TFA and TLJ are only as bad as they are because JJ couldn't carbon copy the original trilogy. Rey had to be a mary sue, otherwise she'd be an exact clone of Luke. they made her less believable just so she could not be called a Luke rip off. lol.
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