d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Entertainment Room > Movies & TV Shows > Thor : Ragnarok
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 26,174
Joined: May 21 2006
Gold: 102.37
Apr 11 2017 03:15am
Quote (Blah58 @ 11 Apr 2017 00:05)
It is such a shame they wasted planet hulk on a Thor movie instead of a stand alone hulk one. Hopefully they won't get too much into it and it is actually setting up for the hulk movie maybe?

Like in this movie Thor escapes and hulk doesn't then they sing that into planet hulk.


Maybe, but I doubt it, they make a spin on it and they release a movie from Hulk's point of view. But if they stay in line with the Avengers Movies they would have to work around the plot.


Quote (Blah58 @ 11 Apr 2017 09:06)
You obviously don't know anything about planet hulk. It is probably one of the only non-spiderman marvel stories that comes anywhere near DC level story quality.


Agreed, besides some Spider Man and X-Men Storys Planet Hulk is the only Marvel book worth checking out.

I also recommend the animated movie, not perfect in any way but fun.

This post was edited by ChuzzeL on Apr 11 2017 03:16am
Member
Posts: 32,985
Joined: Mar 17 2005
Gold: 6.00
Apr 11 2017 09:52am
Quote (Blah58 @ Apr 11 2017 02:06am)
You obviously don't know anything about planet hulk. It is probably one of the only non-spiderman marvel stories that comes anywhere near DC level story quality.


i was pointing out the exact reason it won't happen...hulks character currently doesn't work as a standalone because it's just billed as a 90% aimless smash beast that sometimes acknowledges being told what to smash. the vast majority want "hulk smash" over hulk talking/falling in love/ruling a planet.

would people that know more about hulk than what they've seen in just the avengers movies enjoy it? sure, but that's not really the target audience of these movies.
Member
Posts: 26,174
Joined: May 21 2006
Gold: 102.37
Apr 11 2017 10:33am
Quote (Subwoofer @ 11 Apr 2017 16:52)
i was pointing out the exact reason it won't happen...hulks character currently doesn't work as a standalone because it's just billed as a 90% aimless smash beast that sometimes acknowledges being told what to smash. the vast majority want "hulk smash" over hulk talking/falling in love/ruling a planet.

would people that know more about hulk than what they've seen in just the avengers movies enjoy it? sure, but that's not really the target audience of these movies.


I would love to see a heartbreaking drama with superheros, Hulk would be a fitting character.

Logan tried to go in the right direction but didn't nail it in my opinion. Maybe in a few years, when the mainstream cinema visitor is filled with the standard marvel formula.
Member
Posts: 39,673
Joined: Jun 17 2006
Gold: 5,920.00
Apr 11 2017 10:35am
Quote (ChuzzeL @ Apr 11 2017 10:33am)
I would love to see a heartbreaking drama with superheros, Hulk would be a fitting character.

Logan tried to go in the right direction but didn't nail it in my opinion. Maybe in a few years, when the mainstream cinema visitor is filled with the standard marvel formula.


How did Logan not nail it?
Member
Posts: 26,174
Joined: May 21 2006
Gold: 102.37
Apr 11 2017 10:44am
Quote (Blah58 @ 11 Apr 2017 17:35)
How did Logan not nail it?


Don't know, didn't hit me on an emotional level, hard to point a finger on it.
It also suffered from the same disease like any other Superhero movie recently, I forgot the whole plot after 2-3 days. Can't even name the antagonist nor his motivation.

As I mentioned Logan did a few things right and I want this trend to continue.
Member
Posts: 39,673
Joined: Jun 17 2006
Gold: 5,920.00
Apr 11 2017 11:13am
Quote (ChuzzeL @ Apr 11 2017 10:44am)
Don't know, didn't hit me on an emotional level, hard to point a finger on it.
It also suffered from the same disease like any other Superhero movie recently, I forgot the whole plot after 2-3 days. Can't even name the antagonist nor his motivation.

As I mentioned Logan did a few things right and I want this trend to continue.


The antagonist wasn't important, he was more of a plot device to drive the story of Logan and his daughter forward. You shouldn't really examine it the same way you would a more traditional movie.
Member
Posts: 32,985
Joined: Mar 17 2005
Gold: 6.00
Apr 11 2017 11:34am
Quote (ChuzzeL @ Apr 11 2017 10:33am)
I would love to see a heartbreaking drama with superheros, Hulk would be a fitting character.

Logan tried to go in the right direction but didn't nail it in my opinion. Maybe in a few years, when the mainstream cinema visitor is filled with the standard marvel formula.


hulk isn't really a superhero though currently which is the biggest issue. he's currently a lightly aimed weapon half the time and a cry baby when he's not the weapon.

could planet hulk with a shit ton of time hulk being bruce banner work...sure, but thats not how planet hulk story was and hulk was a walking talking leader of men that loved and not just 100% hate.
Member
Posts: 39,673
Joined: Jun 17 2006
Gold: 5,920.00
Apr 11 2017 11:44am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 11 2017 11:34am)
hulk isn't really a superhero though currently which is the biggest issue. he's currently a lightly aimed weapon half the time and a cry baby when he's not the weapon.

could planet hulk with a shit ton of time hulk being bruce banner work...sure, but thats not how planet hulk story was and hulk was a walking talking leader of men that loved and not just 100% hate.


Which basically only happened in that storyline, I mean the story happened because of his hate and anger.
Member
Posts: 26,174
Joined: May 21 2006
Gold: 102.37
Apr 11 2017 02:29pm
Quote (Blah58 @ 11 Apr 2017 18:13)
The antagonist wasn't important, he was more of a plot device to drive the story of Logan and his daughter forward. You shouldn't really examine it the same way you would a more traditional movie.


Just the way I felt about the movie. Every plot device should be important to have an impact.

Quote (Subwoofer @ 11 Apr 2017 18:34)
hulk isn't really a superhero though currently which is the biggest issue. he's currently a lightly aimed weapon half the time and a cry baby when he's not the weapon.

could planet hulk with a shit ton of time hulk being bruce banner work...sure, but thats not how planet hulk story was and hulk was a walking talking leader of men that loved and not just 100% hate.


But he should, there is a dramatic story hidden behind this character.
The Edward Norton movie tried to deliver this, but failed.
Member
Posts: 25,469
Joined: Dec 19 2009
Gold: 4,470.20
Apr 13 2017 09:31am
I wonder if we will get to see the last gem stone in this movie
Go Back To Movies & TV Shows Topic List
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll