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Not really. Let's take Ghostbusters as an example, literally the only reason the first one worked was the people involved. The amount of genius and on-screen chemistry that came from a bunch of people who agreed to do a movie without knowing what was really going on cannot just be recreated. Most great movies have almost a type of magic that came from the specific situations and people. You can't recreate that, it just happens or it doesn't.

Star wars 4-6 vs 1-3 is another good example of this.

In 4-6 a bunch of people worked on it, loved it, wanted to make it and it magically worked out. In 1-3 George got rid of all those people and tried to just recreate the same types of movies and it failed miserably.



It doesn't matter if the reimagined is good or not, it stilll can be done. If people want to tackle a new project, let them.

Also, aside from the acting, I don't find much other negatives in Star Wars 1-3.

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Also, aside from the acting, I don't find much other negatives in Star Wars 1-3.


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jar jar
overly done cgi giving the world a pristine feeling instead of being gritty
romance between padme and anakin was atrocious
yoda fighting with a lightsabre was blasphemy
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mediclorians
jar jar
overly done cgi giving the world a pristine feeling instead of being gritty
romance between padme and anakin was atrocious
yoda fighting with a lightsabre was blasphemy



Jar jar wasa comic relief just like c3po, just like r2d2, just like ewoks, and just like all other droids and "creatures." The amount of hate for this character is unjust. With that said, no he isn't the most loving character as the comic relief is slightly more annoying than funny.

The special effects for 1-3 were great...especially for this time. Don't even begin to think that the movie Wild have the same feel as 4-6 being made 20 years later.

Romance.....had a right to be there, but I would agree that the acting was poor. The relationship did show parts of anakin's turn to the darkside.



......anything else?
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I think that there are cultural things that change over decades and could be updated so that younger generations can experience something that impacts them emotionally.

For example, Gone with the Wind is undoubtedly one of the goatest films of all time, but it would not resonate as strongly for a 15 year old girl watching it today. Female empowerment has changed forms over the years such that it would take an different plot to recreate the message that audiences experienced so long ago.


I think in those cases you are better off just making a new film based on similar concepts. Like how Spirited Away is basicly Alice In Wonderland 2.0, but aimed at a different generation and demographic.
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It doesn't matter if the reimagined is good or not, it stilll can be done. If people want to tackle a new project, let them.

Also, aside from the acting, I don't find much other negatives in Star Wars 1-3.



there's a difference in things that need to be done and things that can be done.
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Jar jar wasa comic relief just like c3po, just like r2d2, just like ewoks, and just like all other droids and "creatures." The amount of hate for this character is unjust. With that said, no he isn't the most loving character as the comic relief is slightly more annoying than funny.


Jarjar may have been intended to be comic relief, but it was a failure. Instead of being comical, it was annoying. Thus, he was a negative.

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The special effects for 1-3 were great...especially for this time.


The people who were in charge of the special effects were great at their job. They were assigned was to make Lucas' vision. Through no fault of their own, it just happened that Lucas' vision for the worlds made for a bad movie.

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Don't even begin to think that the movie Wild have the same feel as 4-6 being made 20 years later.


You can't just chalk it up to the movie being newer. Ep 7 was new but did not look bad.

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Romance.....had a right to be there, but I would agree that the acting was poor.


The acting was bad, but it wasn't the only thing. The dialogue written in the script was also poor. And it wasn't given enough screen time. Everything about it was bad aside from Natalie Portman being hot and especially when she was chained up in the arena and got her shirt ripped .. yummy

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The relationship did show parts of anakin's turn to the darkside.


It was so forced it had 10% of the effect it should have. If done well, it could have actually made us care about the characters. Instead, the failure to develop a relationship that felt meaningful was a negative for the movie.

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......anything else?

The 5 things i originally listed ofc

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The romance between Anakin and Padme was awkward as fuck. Not only because of the bad acting, but also because of the scripting as Kayeto says. Anakin looked like some creepy obsessive stalker, Padme loved him for no apparent reason and it's like the friendship big-sis bond she had with him in Episode 1 just magically transitioned to romantic love in the second episode, and the dialogue was absolutely terrible and cringy.

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I think in those cases you are better off just making a new film based on similar concepts. Like how Spirited Away is basicly Alice In Wonderland 2.0, but aimed at a different generation and demographic.


I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that really. I'd say that's kinda what I meant when I made this thread, but perhaps didn't explain myself clearly.

Take A Christmas Carol for example. The remake could feature a main character who, through supernatural means, is shown what his life could have been like had he lived it differently. At the end, he has a renewed perspective and acts differently. All the specifics about the names of the ghosts and the life experiences could be completely different and more attuned to our culture. They could be about his relationship with his cell phone, his parents or poor eating habits. Anything that the younger generation can identify with would work.

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I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that really. I'd say that's kinda what I meant when I made this thread, but perhaps didn't explain myself clearly.

Take A Christmas Carol for example. The remake could feature a main character who, through supernatural means, is shown what his life could have been like had he lived it differently. At the end, he has a renewed perspective and acts differently. All the specifics about the names of the ghosts and the life experiences could be completely different and more attuned to our culture. They could be about his relationship with his cell phone, his parents or poor eating habits. Anything that the younger generation can identify would work.


Yeah, that idea sounds right to me; I'd agree to that.
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Quote (Kayeto @ Dec 2 2016 05:16pm)
I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that really. I'd say that's kinda what I meant when I made this thread, but perhaps didn't explain myself clearly.

Take A Christmas Carol for example. The remake could feature a main character who, through supernatural means, is shown what his life could have been like had he lived it differently. At the end, he has a renewed perspective and acts differently. All the specifics about the names of the ghosts and the life experiences could be completely different and more attuned to our culture. They could be about his relationship with his cell phone, his parents or poor eating habits. Anything that the younger generation can identify with would work.


Like 'Family Man'?...
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