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Sep 16 2016 11:35pm
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You do realize the Salem witch trials were in the early 1690s and America wasn't a country until mid-late 1770s?

The witch hunts of Europe and the colonies are very much not American history.


Colonial America is very much American History, it's taught in American History class in elementary, middle, highschool and college.
Despite the 13 original colonies being british colonies, they are still considered american history.
Also, the salem witch trials occurred in 1692-1693, the United States officially established it's independence in 1776. A little over 80 years and it doesn't count?

Also coven wasn't about the european witchhunts, it was about the ones that originated in colonial america.
It also focused on voodoo in new orleans and focused on the very real voodoo queen Marie Laveau who was very much active when the United States was a country.

So to claim that they broke a promise is not at all accurate.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Sep 16 2016 11:47pm
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Sep 16 2016 11:57pm
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Colonial America is very much American History, it's taught in American History class in elementary, middle, highschool and college.
Despite the 13 original colonies being british colonies, they are still considered american history.
Also, the salem witch trials occurred in 1692-1693, the United States officially established it's independence in 1776. A little over 80 years and it doesn't count?

Also coven wasn't about the european witchhunts, it was about the ones that originated in colonial america.
It also focused on voodoo in new orleans and focused on the very real voodoo queen Marie Laveau who was very much active when the United States was a country.

So to claim that they broke a promise is not at all accurate.


It doesn't matter what you're taught, it isn't American history. The people who wanted independence weren't even going to be born for 30+ years.

There are plenty of things in American history that they can pull inspiration from for a show like this. Closing witchcraft/voodoo is just plain lazy.

E: and the laziness showed, it was the worst season.

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Sep 17 2016 12:08am
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It doesn't matter what you're taught, it isn't American history. The people who wanted independence weren't even going to be born for 30+ years.

There are plenty of things in American history that they can pull inspiration from for a show like this. Closing witchcraft/voodoo is just plain lazy.

E: and the laziness showed, it was the worst season.


To quote you from earlier in the thread "well, you're wrong" It is very much american history.

Also, coven had the highest viewer count out of all the seasons so far and was better received by critics and audiences, yet it's the worst season? smh. Dislike it all you want, but you're not even close.

Also, this season is about the lost colony roanoke, which also occurred before the united states was officially a country but is still considered part of american history.

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Sep 17 2016 12:55am
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To quote you from earlier in the thread "well, you're wrong" It is very much american history.

Also, coven had the highest viewer count out of all the seasons so far and was better received by critics and audiences, yet it's the worst season? smh. Dislike it all you want, but you're not even close.

Also, this season is about the lost colony roanoke, which also occurred before the united states was officially a country but is still considered part of american history.


I know that the majority of Americans have an absurd, essentially cult level, feeling of patriotism towards their country and I won't be able to convince you that that is not your history. Whatever doesn't matter. My main point is there are a lot of things they could pull inspiration from and it is a shame they aren't.

Also the roanoke thing is about Europeans assimilating into Native American tribes, which is far more arguably American history than that of the European colonies circa 1600s.
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Sep 17 2016 08:30am
Quote (Blah58 @ Sep 17 2016 04:35am)
You do realize the Salem witch trials were in the early 1690s and America wasn't a country until mid-late 1770s?

The witch hunts of Europe and the colonies are very much not American history.



You're an idiot.

Colonial United States was taught during my education during elementary, middle, high, AND touched upon in college. Meanwhile, Salem was in our agenda middle school and high school.

Where are you getting the idea that colonial United States wasn't an important part of history? That's COMPLETE nonsense. It was heavily taught.......the coming to be of the United States has ALWAYS been an important part of our history.


Also, like I said, I live 30 minutes from Salem, Massachusetts. You live in Canada. I trust my opinion more than yours and everyone here is disagreeing with you. Also, it has nothing to do with patriotism, it's experience. I'm hardly patriotic, but I do remember what was taught during my education.



To go back to your "main point," the series isn't over yet as far as we know. There is still time to fulfill something you desire.

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Sep 17 2016 10:13am
So now Colonial America isn't apart of American history LOL

This kid gets dumber by the day.
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Sep 17 2016 11:49am
Cool thread
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Sep 18 2016 10:16am
Quote (Blah58 @ 16 Sep 2016 22:29)
The witch hunt craze in Europe happened from 1300s to almost the 1700s. The Salem witch trials happened in the 1690s when Salem was very much a European colony, in fact America wasn't born until almost 100 years later.

So let me ask you, what about Salem?


Dude... All of america is a european colony seeing as they ALL came from Europe except for native americans, and well African slaves as well I guess

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Sep 18 2016 06:51pm
i hope shelby dies.. she is fucking dumb and annoying
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Sep 18 2016 07:55pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Sep 16 2016 05:29pm)
Lovecraft and Poe both transformed storytelling and horror in a way never done before, and arguably not done since. Your last sentence basically describes both Poe and Lovecraft (to different degrees). Either way, they are probably the two most influential writers of all American history and not taping their stories for inspiration for an American based horror show is, to me, a huge loss.



The witch hunt craze in Europe happened from 1300s to almost the 1700s. The Salem witch trials happened in the 1690s when Salem was very much a European colony, in fact America wasn't born until almost 100 years later.

So let me ask you, what about Salem?


You bring up a very good point, they could easily pay homage to some of the creators of great horror/suspense by dedicating an entire episode to each. Perhaps they could weave ten elements of their style into an episode, it would add another interesting element to watching the shows.
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