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#21
Dec 18 2015 08:30pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 18 2015 05:26pm)
>guy complains that it is too much like New Hope
>guy complains that the new villain isn't more like the villain in New Hope
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The plot, strong reading comprehension once again.
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#22
Dec 18 2015 08:31pm
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x-apple-data-detectors://27/10[/URL] is what I rate this. Unfortunately I went in with too high of expectations and it did not live up to it .

Good
Liked the rey character
Han and chewie were great and of course Harrison Ford out acted the entire cast and really carried the movie
Poe was alright
Visuals and overall setting of the movie was great

Bad
Finn is terrible and his acting over the top
The plot was identical to new hope just switch some characters around
The empire is not imposing at all, kylo ren is made to look like the biggest fucking bitch and so his captain phasma
Way too much comic relief and half of it was from your main antagonist...
Luke's saber somehow survived the toxic surface of bespin?
No mention of any of the planets they travel to except jakkul...

ALSO how the fuck are Rey and Finn magically trained in saber combat and can match a guy who has been trained since birth ?


I don't really feel like either of them seemed to be trained. Finn fought twice with the light saber, once he lost to a storm trooper with an anti saber weapon, cool as shit imo. Then he lost to ren. Did he wield it yes, did he seem proficient, trained, or good at using it? Hell no.

As far as Rey is concerned, she only wielded it once and wasn't very good until the force kicked in.

Overall good movie imo, definitely worth watching.
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#23
Dec 18 2015 08:58pm
I loved the movie but I have a couple complaints. Kylo should never have been a source of comic relief. He should have killed his subordinates instead of smashing computers.

The scene where Han gets killed is given away immediately by how it was set up. I went into this movie thinking han would die and knew it was coming at least a couple minutes before it happened. By the time it finally did I was over it, it should have had more shock effect. I hate seeing things coming a mile away in a movie.

The first act seemed long and the movie was over before I knew it was in the third act. I guess time flew by for me because I was loving it but there wasn't an epic confrontation like I expected. The destruction of star killer base and the fight scene with Kylo and Rey seemed rushed. Maybe it's me and i'll give it another viewing on sunday.
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#24
Dec 19 2015 07:19am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Dec 18 2015 10:30pm)
The plot, strong reading comprehension once again.



Because how a character acts has no effect on the plot...

Right.

And since when can villains not be a source of comic relief? Most of it wasn't him directly but from how other reacted to his anger.


This post was edited by fuzzy159 on Dec 19 2015 07:21am
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#25
Dec 19 2015 06:07pm
Eh I just wished Kyle ren wasn't such a lil bitch.

In the beginning he was all badass, stopping a laser shot with his force and killing shit np

Then he turns into a Whiney lil bitch as the movie goes on,
Wouldn't be surprised if Rey has balls and Kylo doesnt

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Dec 20 2015 12:35am
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Eh I just wished Kyle ren wasn't such a lil bitch.

In the beginning he was all badass, stopping a laser shot with his force and killing shit np

Then he turns into a Whiney lil bitch as the movie goes on,
Wouldn't be surprised if Rey has balls and Kylo doesnt


That's basically them showing how the force works. When he was in Control he was so powerful. But when he lost his temper he had no control over his powers.
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Dec 20 2015 12:43am
Quote (seifersan @ Dec 19 2015 11:35pm)
That's basically them showing how the force works. When he was in Control he was so powerful. But when he lost his temper he had no control over his powers.


and when rey saw fin get rekt by kylo, she suddenly gets stronk even after losing her temper?
dont think she was ever "in control" in this movie, as she never trained or know how the force actually works, but made her GFG stronk in this movie.

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Dec 20 2015 04:26am
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and when rey saw fin get rekt by kylo, she suddenly gets stronk even after losing her temper?
dont think she was ever "in control" in this movie, as she never trained or know how the force actually works, but made her GFG stronk in this movie.


They never really got too far into this in the movies, but obi Wan at one point was very tuned in with the force. He could pretty much become one with the force, it moved him and he moved it.

From what I took in the movie, when she saw Finn struck down she was angered and took the Saber from Kylo to strike at him in revenge. She quickly realized he was much better than her. At this point she calmed down to consider her survival. She remembered the words of that short lady with glasses (can't remember her name right now) and that lady pretty much described what obi Wan could harness. That the force is in everything and is everything. And to be a jedI is to surrender to the force and follow it. After that she became fluid and let the force guide her movements, which allowed her to best kylo.

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Dec 20 2015 11:58am
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They never really got too far into this in the movies, but obi Wan at one point was very tuned in with the force. He could pretty much become one with the force, it moved him and he moved it.

From what I took in the movie, when she saw Finn struck down she was angered and took the Saber from Kylo to strike at him in revenge. She quickly realized he was much better than her. At this point she calmed down to consider her survival. She remembered the words of that short lady with glasses (can't remember her name right now) and that lady pretty much described what obi Wan could harness. That the force is in everything and is everything. And to be a jedI is to surrender to the force and follow it. After that she became fluid and let the force guide her movements, which allowed her to best kylo.



so basically, that giant who half ass trained kylo for x amount of years got out mastered by that short lady's 2min talk lol
If anything, i expected Kylo to get a lot stronger, after over coming that huge test by killing his own father. Even tho he was conflicted and didn't want to, he still ultimately decided to pick the power of the dark side.
And ya, he was shot but still u'd kinda expect him to put up a better fight against the two rooks
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#30
Dec 20 2015 02:47pm
Quote (Secksii @ Dec 20 2015 06:43am)
and when rey saw fin get rekt by kylo, she suddenly gets stronk even after losing her temper?
dont think she was ever "in control" in this movie, as she never trained or know how the force actually works, but made her GFG stronk in this movie.



Um he got shot by chewie strong blaster AND slashed across the shoulder by Finn
Did you guys not remember how strong chewies blaster was?
He was crippled


Do you guys not pay attention?


Also no one knows how far along he was trained
For all we know he was trained for a couple months
He was also conflicted
He's also not a Sith Lord
Obviously he will be stronger than any grunt in the movie

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Dec 20 2015 02:50pm
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