what did i say that was idiot? i said what i thought of movie and people here called me retarded

That's Jackson's image of it and yes the movies are horrible in comparison. The Hobbit is an actual book and the movie follows the skeleton of the plot. The telling of the story (The book) predates Frodo. It's not just a bunch of random shit, it's events that actually happened in Tolkein lore along with a bunch of random made up shit that Jackson's bitch ass threw in to irritate people who like good stories.

Saying that "some old guy" is just lying is just retarded. It's not my fault that you have no common sense, thanks for the 15 minutes suspension though.

I didn't realize that Jsp didn't allow others to let someone know when they were saying something idiotic. It's for their own good mods.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Jul 29 2014 08:07pm

I assume you are calling Mr Jackson some old guy, it reflects your age as being a tot. Anyway... a reader of the books should realiese that it is their interpretation of
what is written by the Author... the Author tries their hardest to protray what they are visualising and convey it to the reader by words... only thing is... interpretations
can be different... hence if you have read the books and have an interpretation of what it should be all about, then that is what you see from those words compared to
his or other people.

I have not read the books, I am thankful for this because I can watch these movies with an open mind and not make a judgement on my own authority based on how
I percieve the written description intended from the writer [Author], but, like the writer [Author] had intended, the reader can see the story for what they beleive it to
be, even if it is NOT what the writer [Author] had interpreted in their writing, that writer just wanted people to read the contents and see the story based on their [readers]
own interpretation with some guiding help.

For fudge sack... get over the written material and your own interpretations to be blasphemas to a movie... a movie is just entertainment that is visual, not mental like
the written story [book(s)]



To me the book and the movies are different things... the readers only view events based on their own percention of what they read and their own understanding,
the movies are presented in the way that person [Peter Jackson] envisaged the writing contents of the book. So, for YOU, you have this understanding that the
movies are shit because of your own perception of how it was to come about by your understanding of the written book, and you ridicule another for reading
the same contents differently to your mentality... you would make a great George Bush and create another World War because you are so much the child
that you portray in your comments without a real open mind, you close off, you do not think outside the box, nor do you comprehend that others have their
opinions based on their own beliefs.

What I am basically saying is this... society and the so called freedom of speech is not really the simple truth to the matter, it is more opening your eyes and
have an open minded opinion based on anothers culture, beliefs and structure before negating anything. The American Indians had trivial rivalry between others,
but, some tribes believed that they would survive with the Europeans ultimate superior firepower and get revenge on their rivals and join the Europeans, now after
many years, the descendents realise, they were children acting badly... this is what you are portraying in your post, you are just a baby letting out your frustration
by constantly posting your tantrums.

Grow up and live life without societies crap imprinted into your mind and subconscience [sp].

That's all good and fine and everything. The bottom line though, he made Gandalf look like a weak and useless old man, when in fact he's a fucking God who never doubted himself once during the course of this adventure. I don't like him portraying amazing characters in a bad and untrue light. You can say it's his own interpretation and find acceptance but that's never going to happen for me. He destroyed a book I loved as a child and that's just one example, he's pretty much butchered everything. He even made Beorn seem weak.... how the fuck do you even do that?

yes, movies are always worse than the book they were based on. Since when is this news?

Is it too much to ask that they at least try to be decent? This is the worst adaptation of a good novel since Queen of the Damned. That was worse of course but this is definitely second on my shit list.



It's not so much that he didn't do a good job, it's that he changed EVERY aspect of the book besides the bare minimum. The only thing that's the same is that people have the same names and it's the same quest, nothing that happens in between is relevant and focusing on the fucking ring is a joke. We had three movies about the ring, the hobbit wasn't about the fucking evil ring, lets enjoy something else.

Answering that question is hard because of the uncertainty around the definition of the word 'decent'.

It is not too much to ask that Jackson try to make a movie that will turn out a decent profit, since that's the sole reason he was given a chance to make the movie. It is too much to ask that he try to make a movie that a book fan will consider a decent adaptation.

You just can't compare a story produced by a big movie studio to a piece of great, classic literature.

Basically, it's like you letting someone shit in your mouth and then complaining because it doesn't taste as good as a hot fudge sundae. You should have known what it was and where it came from.

This post was edited by kayeto on Jul 29 2014 10:01pm

Soooooo like...why not just go re-read the book and not watch the movies then?

How is that even comparable? He at least did a somewhat decent job on the LOTR series, I thought he would try to put the same amount of effort into this, which he obviously didn't. Most of the time it's lazy writing and just shit he seems to be pulling out of his ass to appease the tween crowed. LOTR was already successful, why fuck with a winning formula? I thought it would be stretched out quite a bit, I always thought two films would be perfect for the Hobbit. I just didn't expect him to rip the entire story clean and fill it with just complete shit.

I don't expect a director who's done decent work in the past to shit in my throat, it happens from time to time but I'm not going to come into something thinking that. The first one started out great, the first 30 minutes was awesome and then it fucking plummeted from there, he just got lazy. Changing all the orcs/goblins to CGI was also fucking stupid, they looked great in LOTR, why would you spend more money to make something look worse?



Read it about a month ago and I'll see the movie when I can watch it for free. It's a topic about the Hobbit and I'm discussing it, I'm not sure why this bothers you. You've displayed having terrible taste (imo) when it comes to loads of movies already. I'm glad you can settle for mediocrity or perhaps better yet, you actually see these as good films, I'm honestly jealous of your easily entertained nature.

No insult intended, I wish I wasn't so irritated by shitty films but I am and it's honestly unfortunate.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Jul 29 2014 10:22pm

Saying I have terrible taste kinda IS an insult even if you add "no insult intended".

Yea I have it easy. I look at what's in theater and there's always at least 1 or 2 movies I wanna see.

I also pick up new TV shows all the time. You calling it "settling for mediocrity" is kind of ridiculous. You're like some of the other dudes around this sub-forum who barely seem to like anything.

Ok the movie isn't doing EXACTLY what's in the book. For the GIANT FUCKING MASSIVE AMOUNT of viewers who haven't read the book, they could not give 2 shits. The movie as a standalone IS entertaining.



(inb4 you bash me for liking a kid's motherfucking favorite)

I fucking loooooooooved dragon ball as a kid. Had all the books, bought all the DVDs, did fucking kamehamehas in the pool. Then came the live action movie. Shit was fucking terrible. I didn't care. Why get irritated? Some other people might have liked it. Meanwhile I had all the awesome DB memories. The movie didn't DESTROY anything like wtf?


Maybe it's cause I'm aging a little and I don't really think the way teens/new adults do but daaaaaaamn...