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Apr 10 2014 11:13pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Apr 10 2014 08:37pm)
I guess parts were a lil 2 cheesy for me...granted I've watched it a few times now whenever I come across it on the movie channel but just some parts of the movie (specifically the old school "you are not alone" broadcast. 

Its a fun movie but I'd still prefer the other marvel superhero movies better.....that's all.


Quote (Blah58 @ Apr 10 2014 08:56pm)
cuz superman is marvel


took the words outta my mouth
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Apr 11 2014 06:35am
Quote (Blah58 @ Apr 10 2014 06:49pm)
Deleting the useless part of this quote.



lolk kid, A LOT of characters know his weakness to kryptonite.



Superman is willing to kill if absolutely necessary(ex. superman new 52 issue 3), which zod made it by saying he would never stop and Clark knew there was no way to control him, so  neck snap.


You have the ramblings of a person that has NEVER seen the original Superman series, and since I am like 20 years + your senior, calling me kid is a joke.
Only later writers used killing someone as dilemma to shock the reader/viewer, even the animation Superman vs The Elite [2012] has gone back to the orignial ethics.

He was never portrayed and would never have killed anyone... this is the original, not the re-write ... KID.

Bet they never mentioned that he was taught how to walk through walls without breaking it either, this was one show I remember... he used enough vibration / speed throughout his body to become ethereal
or form of phasing to walk through a specific wall to catch someone.

It is amazing how young people like you have one era of knowledge about comic history and only have limitations to older series upto today, you believe
you know it all, but, sorry to burst your lack of knowledge... you DON'T... and that goes for every young wannabe know it all.

"Goodnight Johnboy" [The Waltons]

EDIT: forgot to mention, not the cartoon series either.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 11 2014 06:38am
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Apr 11 2014 08:42am
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You have the ramblings of a person that has NEVER seen the original Superman series, and since I am like 20 years + your senior, calling me kid is a joke.
Only later writers used killing someone as dilemma to shock the reader/viewer, even the animation Superman vs The Elite [2012] has gone back to the orignial ethics.

He was never portrayed and would never have killed anyone... this is the original, not the re-write ... KID.

Bet they never mentioned that he was taught how to walk through walls without breaking it either, this was one show I remember... he used enough vibration / speed throughout his body to become ethereal
or form of phasing to walk through a specific wall to catch someone.

It is amazing how young people like you have one era of knowledge about comic history and only have limitations to older series upto today, you believe
you know it all, but, sorry to burst your lack of knowledge... you DON'T... and that goes for every young wannabe know it all.

"Goodnight Johnboy" [The Waltons]

EDIT: forgot to mention, not the cartoon series either.


What are you going on about? I guess being 20 years our senior made you mildly senile. You said Superman has never killed anyone and he pointed out examples where superman DID kill someone. There's more than 1 instance. That's that. He simply disproved something you claimed about superman. End of discussion.
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Apr 11 2014 09:51am
The only thing that ever bugs me about superman in general is the fact that he's a God once he has fully embraced that he's a kryptonian. How come none of the other Kryptonian's have godlike abilities? I mean they're all superhuman ofc but nothing like the 100% immortal, galaxy lifting, bad mother fucker that superman becomes by simply getting out of denial lol. I don't think any high-born Kryptonian's are suffering from identity issues like Clark and the whole plot of superman is just kind of nonsense lol.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Apr 11 2014 09:51am
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Apr 11 2014 10:12am
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The only thing that ever bugs me about superman in general is the fact that he's a God once he has fully embraced that he's a kryptonian. How come none of the other Kryptonian's have godlike abilities? I mean they're all superhuman ofc but nothing like the 100% immortal, galaxy lifting, bad mother fucker that superman becomes by simply getting out of denial lol. I don't think any high-born Kryptonian's are suffering from identity issues like Clark and the whole plot of superman is just kind of nonsense lol.


The idea behind it is superman grew up on earth, so he was getting yellow sun radiation since he was a baby. Other kryptonians get strength from the sun, but not as much as Clark.

Quote (Lensherr @ Apr 11 2014 10:17am)
it's also about the codex thing, but I'm sure someone will explain it better than me.


Pretty sure this is also a part of it; explained in some superman or justice league comic somewhere, along with man of steel ofc.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 11 2014 06:35am)
You have the ramblings of a person that has NEVER seen the original Superman series, and since I am like 20 years + your senior, calling me kid is a joke.
Only later writers used killing someone as dilemma to shock the reader/viewer, even the animation Superman vs The Elite [2012] has gone back to the orignial ethics.

He was never portrayed and would never have killed anyone... this is the original, not the re-write ... KID.

Bet they never mentioned that he was taught how to walk through walls without breaking it either, this was one show I remember... he used enough vibration / speed throughout his body to become ethereal
or form of phasing to walk through a specific wall to catch someone.

It is amazing how young people like you have one era of knowledge about comic history and only have limitations to older series upto today, you believe
you know it all, but, sorry to burst your lack of knowledge... you DON'T... and that goes for every young wannabe know it all.

"Goodnight Johnboy" [The Waltons]

EDIT: forgot to mention, not the cartoon series either.


I know more about comic books than you could ever wish to dream, please don't talk like you know anything.

+ The vibrate through walls thing is a flash move, superman might have mimicked it in some episode of the justice league or something but it isn't a "superman move"

+ For someone who is like 40-50 you have complete shit English skills, and you are way too invested in things on this forum. Why don't you take a step back and evaluate your life?

This post was edited by Blah58 on Apr 11 2014 10:22am
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Apr 11 2014 10:17am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 11 Apr 2014 17:51)
The only thing that ever bugs me about superman in general is the fact that he's a God once he has fully embraced that he's a kryptonian. How come none of the other Kryptonian's have godlike abilities? I mean they're all superhuman ofc but nothing like the 100% immortal, galaxy lifting, bad mother fucker that superman becomes by simply getting out of denial lol. I don't think any high-born Kryptonian's are suffering from identity issues like Clark and the whole plot of superman is just kind of nonsense lol.


From what I understood, Clark was on earth since he was a baby, and the sun which is still a pretty young sun gives him a lot of power or something like that, but there are more explainations, it's also about the codex thing, but I'm sure someone will explain it better than me.
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Apr 11 2014 10:18am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Apr 11 2014 11:51am)
The only thing that ever bugs me about superman in general is the fact that he's a God once he has fully embraced that he's a kryptonian. How come none of the other Kryptonian's have godlike abilities? I mean they're all superhuman ofc but nothing like the 100% immortal, galaxy lifting, bad mother fucker that superman becomes by simply getting out of denial lol. I don't think any high-born Kryptonian's are suffering from identity issues like Clark and the whole plot of superman is just kind of nonsense lol.


Because of previous incarnations of superman, his powers developed over a longer period of time. He's a solar battery and he has many years growing up under a yellow sun, where as the krypton that always show up did not have that same benefit. Which also illustrates why he would appear weaker at times because of his morality, he would restrain his powers.
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Apr 11 2014 11:32am
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That makes sense, thanks for the info. I've always been more of a Marvel fan-boy myself and I'm not super knowledgeable about superman.

Still thought the movie was mediocre but I understand it's difficult to make a compelling movie about a hero who has no real adversity.
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Apr 11 2014 12:58pm
A lot of people miss the point of Superman. He has all these powers and he isn't human.

But the thing about him is he wants to be human. He does not want the power he has. His powers are a curse to him. He was born into a world where his family and race was dying but grew up and identified with humans but he will never be one of them. And his morality holds back a lot of what he does. He constantly questions whether or not he should ever actually use his powers.

This is where the incompetence comes from. I mean yeah, with the powers he's supposed to have, he should be able to take care of anyone or any threat. But that doesn't make for a good story, whereas his flaws of how he identifies himself does.

That being said, I'm not the biggest fan of Superman because it just doesn't interest me that much. But a lot of people miss the point of Superman.

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Apr 11 2014 02:19pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 11 2014 01:35pm)
You have the ramblings of a person that has NEVER seen the original Superman series, and since I am like 20 years + your senior, calling me kid is a joke.
Only later writers used killing someone as dilemma to shock the reader/viewer, even the animation Superman vs The Elite [2012] has gone back to the orignial ethics.

He was never portrayed and would never have killed anyone... this is the original, not the re-write ... KID.

Bet they never mentioned that he was taught how to walk through walls without breaking it either, this was one show I remember... he used enough vibration / speed throughout his body to become ethereal
or form of phasing to walk through a specific wall to catch someone.


It is amazing how young people like you have one era of knowledge about comic history and only have limitations to older series upto today, you believe
you know it all, but, sorry to burst your lack of knowledge... you DON'T... and that goes for every young wannabe know it all.

"Goodnight Johnboy" [The Waltons]

EDIT: forgot to mention, not the cartoon series either.


That was an episode of Lois and Clark. :)
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