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Sep 23 2013 05:02am
Quote (PartyInMyPants @ Sep 22 2013 03:37am)
So who else is pissed off by Walt's childish temper tantrums? I mean seriously...

That scene where he's hand cuffed in Hank's jeep and he's screaming "JACK JACK NO DONT DO IT JACK JACK ITS OFF JACK JACK JACK JACK JACK DONT DO IT DONT DO IT JACK JACK JACK"

Holy hell I just want to punch him...

All 5 seasons have been filled with Walt crying about something. He acts tough but he's incredibly weak emotionally.


That's his entire character. He is trying to be something he isn't. He can only walk the part for so long until the weak sensitive fool hardy chemist he is at heart shows up.

You have to remember all of this started because he got cancer. He got cancer, thought he was going to die. So he started doing things he would never do just because he thought he was dying. Because at first he didn't really care about living or dying but the intervention with the family came and then he survived the cancer. And by this point he was involved in a world he never intended to stay in. And he couldn't leave it himself because he had change a part of who he is. And from this point he was talking on egg shells and thus you have all the results.

It's the whole part of the show. It's about regular old man who breaks bad and how it isn't who he really is. The temper tantrums are basically his Walter White ego trying to let go of the cold calculated drug kingpin he created in his head and tried to emulate.
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Sep 23 2013 10:11am
By the way, I never missed Mike more than I did during that scene with Todd and Lydia. When she was being her own hyper-paranoid self with the whole "we face forward, we'll talk like this", and Todd was like "yes my love, whatever you say darling". I was wondering "where the hell is Mike to call her on her shit?"

I thought this was a great episode. They were a little subtle with Walter's transition - they didn't just do a flat "one month later" kind of thing. I thought the talk with his son on the phone was completely heart wrenching... him hearing his son's response and all the while just trying to say "this can't all be for nothing... this can't all be for nothing..." Hearing his son hate him like that (for good reason) was enough for him to just lose his willpower and give himself up. But then hearing his pride attacked by Elliot and Gretchen like that was enough to reawaken Heisenberg, since after all... he's in the "Empire business", and the Gray Matter empire is what pushed him to start his own in the first place. But I just loved his whole transition in this whole episode.

This season made me sympathise with him more than the last few seasons combined, strangely enough. I guess when he's out of the business for so many months, he becomes more and more human. (Of course he still did some terrible things this season, like give the neo nazis the location of Andrea and her relationship to Jesse, or telling Jesse "I saw Jane die" to his face.) But the Gray Matter thing just brought back the Heisenberg in him. I just hope they don't make him able to take out the whole group on his own with an M-60... that would be kinda stupid, especially considering how incompetent he is with a gun.

My one big criticism for this "season" (5b) is that the neo nazis are a bit underdeveloped for how much of a huge driving force they are in this season. With all the things they are able to accomplish, I would prefer someone like Gus and his men in their place. They are just able to drive the plot a little too much for such one-dimensional characters with little screen development time.
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Sep 23 2013 12:20pm
Quote (AnomanderRake @ Sep 23 2013 12:11pm)
My one big criticism for this "season" (5b) is that the neo nazis are a bit underdeveloped for how much of a huge driving force they are in this season. With all the things they are able to accomplish, I would prefer someone like Gus and his men in their place. They are just able to drive the plot a little too much for such one-dimensional characters with little screen development time.


I think it would have been difficult to give them much rich character development without jeopardizing their intended unlikeability. For example, the effort put into developing Gus made him a little more understandable, some might even say a little more "gray".

I think that the Aryans serve a purpose in S5, they end up being the antagonists. Trying to give them good development that makes them multidimensional would make it harder for them to serve that role. Currently, there is no fan of the show out there hoping the Aryans terrorize Jesse some more. Vince can end the series with them cleanly since they fall clearly in a defined role.

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Sep 23 2013 03:24pm
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Sep 23 2013 05:58pm
Quote (kayeto @ Sep 23 2013 10:20am)
I think it would have been difficult to give them much rich character development without jeopardizing their intended unlikeability. For example, the effort put into developing Gus made him a little more understandable, some might even say a little more "gray".

I think that the Aryans serve a purpose in S5, they end up being the antagonists. Trying to give them good development that makes them multidimensional would make it harder for them to serve that role. Currently, there is no fan of the show out there hoping the Aryans terrorize Jesse some more. Vince can end the series with them cleanly since they fall clearly in a defined role.


Yeah, I definitely get that. Especially since the whole idea is that Walter is so desperate and inconsiderate that he basically doesn't give a shit who he deals with and who he unleashes on people, and the result is a bunch of hateable nazis causing havoc.

Still, I feel like the more a person's motivations are fleshed out, the better. Especially if they're a major villain driving the plot. Like Walter, for example, is just seen as this horrible ruthless person by the general public (which he is; I'm not saying he isn't), but as much as we can hate him, we can make sense of why he's doing everything. The same can be said for Gus. I just think that the bigger a person's impact is on the plot, the more fleshed out their motivations should be.

I think it just happens to be a time constraint. The writer didn't want to be perceived as someone who drags out his show, so he chose to end it on a high note, on the fifth season. The only problem was, at the end of the fourth season he basically exhausted his entire supply of well developed antagonists, so he had to push one on us as quickly as possible.
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Sep 23 2013 07:24pm
Quote (Hboy @ Sep 22 2013 11:10pm)
next time jessies cooking, he should make a bomb thingy and throw it at the nazis
then badger comes and helps him finish off the rest


dont think he actually knows any chemistry. he just knows the routine and some basic stuff along the way.
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Sep 23 2013 09:20pm
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Sep 24 2013 08:50am
Quote (carteblanche @ Sep 23 2013 08:24pm)
dont think he actually knows any chemistry. he just knows the routine and some basic stuff along the way.


only enough to cook 92%
eisenberg level
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Sep 24 2013 09:40am
Quote (xtraflac @ Sep 24 2013 10:50am)
only enough to cook 92%
eisenberg level


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Sep 24 2013 12:19pm
Quote (PatrioticDeath @ Sep 14 2013 11:02pm)
Hank and Gomez die, walts whole family dies, Lydia's connections are actually "gray matter". Jesse hangs himself and badger finds him and tells his story on Charlie rose.

Show ends with Walt going on a killing spree at the Simms building 'DEA' building with the song free bird playing as Walt gets shot down and get his last kiss from his one true love, Gretchen.  Fe Li Na.  Fe = meth Li= Blood Na = Tears

Read the poem felina if you don't believe me. 

Or watch walts whole family die tomorrow.


Considering Fe is iron and Li is lithium you probably mean
Blood Meth Tears. Not Meth Blood Tears.
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