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Jul 4 2013 04:27pm
Quote (BebebBurns @ Jul 4 2013 10:11am)
The show is called naked and afraid, if you absolutely don't want to watch either in survival show then. The concept is random, sure.

Maybe it's the ego that is fragile. Malnutrition affects your brain chemistry, hard, if you haven't witnessed anything like it or are mentally in the sharpest 1% this is very hard to grasp. Just watched 1/20 while making food so wasn't paying attention, seems very weird that they couldn't catch or find any food but tbh I'm not sure how well would an average american handle it either.

Malnutrition might have cut their source of dopamine etc., but yea, what was this, 21 days? You can live that if you health is ok without food. If this was real situation they wouldn't have probably survived for very long.

Nudity isn't nor should be shocking, like said, this seems like random concept, so what, variation can be interesting. If they would be just naked without it would be sort of adam and eve thing or robbers steal everything and dump you somewhere.

That's pretty cool if you can do that kind of stuff very well. Maybe this is like a case for black belt martial arts fellow, it wouldn't necessary mean you would win real fights. If they are proper survival teachers then they should have probably had some first hand experience, oh well.

Didn't it seem that they got more fragile as the weeks went?

Survival and being creative is a bit more natural, primal for us that car engine. Probably you might get more out of this stuff if you know some basics, sure.

You are not getting taught by the fellows who make mistakes. You are teaching yourself while watching while watching people taking too big riskes.

Seems like your biggest fault of this is that it isn't educational. You realize it doesn't try to be educational and if you can't handle that or understand how could you enjoy that kind of then this kind of stuff isn't for you atm but it still is survival show, maybe in more literal sense.

It was weird that their ratings rose, maybe they were trained survivalists though but just not good. You can blame the show for many silly and absurd things. Giving people clothes and modern tools is great idea, maybe the duration could be even month or few then.

Probably won't be watching further than pilot but surely there must be some clever survivors to come. - We can bash the show for focusing editing on wrong things etc. but there is room in the world for dozens of different kind of survival shows. Not all for everyone necessary.


the thing is "naked and afraid" but people use to being outdoors don't get scared much. like i said this show would make a bunch more sense if it was just a couple of random people that had to learn how to survive from scratch.

with dehydration being a problem it for sure can be hard to focus. however since they found water pretty quick their only real concern was hunger which is far more forgiving than dehydration. ya for "Survivalist" they were very passive about finding food. basically they just kind of accidentally found some rather than looking for it.

the point about the car engine was if its a completely new area of learning for you then the chances of you correcting your teacher is slim. not saying a very smart person has this problem but usually people in a survival situation aren't that smart lol.

honestly there are times when you have to take informed big risk. for example when that guy killed the snake..how many people do you think went "he should of called the girl for help and threw something at it to kill it." not the majority i assure you.

my biggest problem is they present the people as role models...and go so far to give people who only managed to eat twice in 3 weeks HIGHER ratings even though the guy basically freaked out and lost his mind, the girl damn near killed herself with food poisoning, they both lost so much body weight they were literally about to die.

so basically when someone watches that show without prior knowledge on this subject they can easily think those people aren't retards. most people don't know shit about outdoor survival anymore and my concern is how many people would of been better off without these gimmick shows to give them bad ideas.

ya the rating thing just blew my mind. the dude broke down and "mental" is part of their scoring system so how he didn't plummet just because of his craziness is beyond me. ya basic clothes for the region and a couple of basic tool options and 30 day primitive survival would be an alright show. 30 days basically says hey...you actually have to do good or you're going to die. 21 days is right there where as long as you find water you are just going to be in bad shape afterwards.

i watched some of the second one and it seemed to be the same stuff. you remember when he started calling the girl "kiddo" well in the next one the guy immediately starts calling the girl "squirrel", sexist remarks etc. turned it off after that because i realized they weren't interested in anything but drama and stupidity.

i'd be fine with it airing if they put a disclaimer on it about it not being for education purposes. man vs wild has a fat disclaimer because his show focuses more on doing crazy shit than surviving.
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Jul 4 2013 11:15pm
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Yes he is alone... Have you ever seen the making of the show?

He places a camera, gets the shot, and walks all the way back for the camera. Sometimes he says he leaves his cameras behind for his crew to get after filming. He has to carry around his camera equipment everywhere he goes, on his hike out he will say fuck it and leave some of it behind.

He films the whole thing solo, with his crew miles away


Well thanks, ive only seen this show a couple of times that's why I didn't know
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Jul 4 2013 11:17pm
Quote (Jibbosh @ Jul 5 2013 12:15am)
Well thanks, ive only seen this show a couple of times that's why I didn't know


you get to see a lot of that problem depending on the episode. like there are times when he has to warm his batteries with body heat, clean lenses CONSTANTLY, has multiple camera failures due to humidity/rain.

dude has got some serious stamina to deal with surviving plus the burden of filming it.
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Jul 5 2013 04:22am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jul 5 2013 12:27am)
the thing is "naked and afraid" but people use to being outdoors don't get scared much. like i said this show would make a bunch more sense if it was just a couple of random people that had to learn how to survive from scratch.

with dehydration being a problem it for sure can be hard to focus. however since they found water pretty quick their only real concern was hunger which is far more forgiving than dehydration. ya for "Survivalist" they were very passive about finding food. basically they just kind of accidentally found some rather than looking for it.

the point about the car engine was if its a completely new area of learning for you then the chances of you correcting your teacher is slim. not saying a very smart person has  this problem but usually people in a survival situation aren't that smart lol.

honestly there are times when you have to take informed big risk. for example when that guy killed the snake..how many people do you think went "he should of called the girl for help and threw something at it to kill it." not the majority i assure you.

my biggest problem is they present the people as role models...and go so far to give people who only managed to eat twice in 3 weeks HIGHER ratings even though the guy basically freaked out and lost his mind, the girl damn near killed herself with food poisoning, they both lost so much body weight they were literally about to die.

so basically when someone watches that show without prior knowledge on this subject they can easily think those people aren't retards. most people don't know shit about outdoor survival anymore and my concern is how many people would of been  better off without these gimmick shows to give them bad ideas.

ya the rating thing just blew my mind. the dude broke down and "mental" is part of their scoring system so how he didn't plummet just because of his craziness is beyond me. ya basic clothes for the region and a couple of basic tool options and 30 day primitive survival would be an alright show. 30 days basically says hey...you actually have to do good or you're going to die. 21 days is right there where as long as you find water you are just going to be in bad shape afterwards.

i watched some of the second one and it seemed to be the same stuff. you remember when he started calling the girl "kiddo" well in the next one the guy immediately starts calling the girl "squirrel", sexist remarks etc. turned it off after that because i realized they weren't interested in anything but drama and stupidity.

i'd be fine with it airing if they put a disclaimer on it about it not being for education purposes. man vs wild has a fat disclaimer because his show focuses more on doing crazy shit than surviving.


Yea, in that case maybe they could even get a survival book with them.

Imo we have some primitive survival/hunt instintcs based on hundreds of thousand and million of years.

That rating part was weird, so extreme viewer discretion should be adviced :P They couldn't have done much worse, were there eatable plants / animals around though?

Yea, the guy on first one didn't seem too stable person
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Jul 5 2013 08:44pm
see like les stroud does research on his area beforehand so he can keep a lookout for edible planets. thats a big part of survival is knowing whats in the area.

fish, monkey, snakes, insects, turtle, frogs, snails, probably freshwater crawfish, and fruits. they just had no clue about that place or how to hunt the things in it. may as well of called the show "what happens when you don't know how to survive."

lol like the mental ratings and almost immediately before anything happened the guy was bitching about the girl. she kept a level head for the most part but that guy was one of those people you end up having to kill to protect yourself in a dangerous situation lol.

i'll admit the jungle is a fairly hard environment to survive in but they really didn't try hard to survive.
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Jul 6 2013 11:32am
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see like les stroud does research on his area beforehand so he can keep a lookout for edible planets. thats a big part of survival is knowing whats in the area.

fish, monkey, snakes, insects, turtle, frogs, snails, probably freshwater crawfish, and fruits. they just had no clue about that place or how to hunt the things in it. may as well of called the show "what happens when you don't know how to survive."

lol like the mental ratings and almost immediately before anything happened the guy was bitching about the girl. she kept a level head for the most part but that guy was one of those people you end up having to kill to protect yourself in a dangerous situation lol.

i'll admit the jungle is a fairly hard environment to survive in but they really didn't try hard to survive.


Its just another reality tv show. We will probably never again see something like survivor man on tv. Its sad :(
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Jul 13 2013 05:02pm
I love survivor man so much. All other shows don't come close to compare to his knowledge of survival.
Bear grylls used shock value and teqniques you would never want to do if alone and surviving because plainly it is dangerous and could actually end up injuring you, which likely would lead to death.
Also he was sued for fraud on man vs wild I believe.

I love when les is in te amazon jungle and that panther starts stalking him. Holy shit was that crazy! And he's so calm
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Jul 14 2013 04:02pm
Holy arguments, i forgot i posted this and come back a week later to people just rippin' eachother :P .. I've watched Dual-Survival which has a crew with them so it's a bit shittier. I watched the first 2 seasons, then started the 3rd season and Dave isn't in it anymore because he apparently faked being in the military for 20 years so they fired him... and the new guy that have is dumb.

still was pretty good, Cody Lundine is a beast walking bare foot the entire time every episode :P and he builds amazing shelters and fires.

This post was edited by J_O_H_N on Jul 14 2013 04:02pm
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Jul 14 2013 05:04pm
Big Brother

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Jul 14 2013 07:03pm
way too much tl;dr itt, lol

but yeah, survivor man is very practical and I enjoy dual survival as well, even have the guy's survival book, has gg information in it.

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