where can I find episode 2-4?

in due time

Was alright, not much to complain about besides the disgusting food/shit compilation montage thingy and The Hound looking into the fire in a scene which imo is a betrayal of his character (at least with such little screen time showing a reasonable character development).

Also, as much as I enjoy watching Arya kick ass, I have some issues with the first scene. How did she adopt Frey's form? afaik the faceless men can change their shape only while mantaining the same body mass... even if she got as close to Frey's shape as possible with her mass, the differences would have been noticed throughout the day that went by after the death of Frey and the new dinner hosted in the opening scene. And even if she could perfectly pull off his appearance, what did she do with his body? Can Frey go completely missing without anyone noticing for such a long time that would allow Arya to dispose of his body, and prepare the use of his face? Also don't the faces need to undergo some special treatment in Bravos before being used? Not sure about this, I was just under that impression.

It's a TV show with dragons, magical resurrection, and a marching undead army of giants / icemen. I don't think analyzing it will get you very far, minor detail to look over and forget about.

If you want to talk about a major plot fail, then lets talk about how Samwell isn't skinny after vomiting from all the bedpan cleaning? He should be 100 pounds lighter by now.

agreed, it was horrible and I even closed my eyes during it


Of course it's never going to be the extent that a book can bring, I feel like they did as much as they could for his development. Between the whole Meribald encounter and the fact that he decided to join Thoros and Beric because he was so curious about what they are all about, they couldn't have devoted more screen time to showing that the Hound is willing to step out of his comfort zone and question his way of being.



I somewhat agree with you. It does seem a bit farfetched that Arya could transition so seamlessly into Walder without anyone noticing. But as far of the mechanics of the face-taking goes, GRRM has stated that it is a combination of magic and makeup. So, presumably Arya is now a wizard. She waited til the main hall was empty, killed him and took his form, and had had it ever since.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jul 17 2017 01:49pm

"There's no such thing as divine intervention, if there was you'd be dead you cunt. And that little girl would be alive"

or something like that

- he gets the best dialogue

This post was edited by WelSh on Jul 17 2017 01:54pm

The show having magical elements isn't an excuse for not being logical. Even if it's lazy writing, I'm ok with authors using magic to fill in plot holes, so long as its consistent with the series's logic/rules/lore. The world of GoT is full of fantasy elements, but it functions very much like out own... I expect things to follow a logic that would be applicable to out own world, while of course taking into account the know fantasy elements in the show. If Arya can change her face then fine, but she must do so according to the rules the show previously established. And as far as I know, getting rid of corpses doesn't work any differently in Westeros than it does on Earth.



Me too



I'd be ok with it if something impactful happened that could change The Hound's character. It can be a short scene, where something meaningful happens; a long development isn't necessary. But someone just saying "look into the fames" (which he fears, and it makes no sense that some guy asking him to look in would make him want to stare at them... especially not with the idea that he will see some sort of miracle overriding the thought that he might get burnt) and then having some sort of revelation is silly imo.



I get that she can now use magic, but isn't there a process that needs to be done before that magic can be used? Maybe I'm not remembering it properly, but iirc while she was at Bravos she was tasked with preparing corpses in a specific way, then taking off their faces and giving them some sort of treatment... over all a pretty lengthy process. If that is necessary, then she wouldn't have had time to prepare Frey's appearance before people noticed he was gone (she also had to get rid of his body before that, and put on his clothes). Beyond that I question that she could pull off her Frey impersonation for a whole day, especially if her shapeshifting abilities are limited to having the same mass as her original body.

Yeah, that was a great quote

"Divine justice" I think he said.

Good starting EP, picking up on everyone story as usual

next ep should be epic

So Bran shows up at the wall... and still hasnt been reunited with Jon and Sansa... come on man