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Dec 21 2017 04:08pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Dec 21 2017 02:26pm)
He's right you know....

It makes no sense that any non-white male is SJW plant, there's zero fucking logic to that lol. If they were pushing an agenda, sure, you could maybe argue that, but it was just a Star Wars movie. It had a ton of problems, but having a woman in charge, a random Asian character, and a black guy who was a MAJOR character in the first one (kinda has to be in the second....), are not examples of SJW propaganda, that's just called putting people in a fucking movie lol.



This. I don't think it's perfectly in line with the character, but I can buy it, and this wasn't a huge hangup for me anyways.


Omg so funny, that is basically exactly the words I used to describe you.

Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 21 2017 02:33pm)
hmmmm! you dont seem a bad person, so let me try to help :blush: ! for example imagine if finn and rose were white! you would probably be like "what are those two even doing in the movie? it would be better without them!"

so then you realize, its a really bad movie that tried to fill the time with pointless scenes! but then you see the length of the movie and realize they didnt really have to fill the time :wacko: so they are in for a purpose! and after seeing both force awakens and this, the only purpose i can see is sjw. if you have better ideas do tell, cause this one seems really obvious :wacko:

tldr: i dont hate black people. i hate bad characters <_< he can be blacker than kevin garnett, if hes a good char that is fun to watch, i will be the first to praise him :blush: !


Fin and Rose have extremely important roles in the movie. They essentially embody the entire point of the movie. Did you even watch it?

The characters are black and Asian because those are the actors that tried it for the roles and were the best choice of the options available.

Plus their entire storyline in the movie is extremely important. Yes the mission they were sent on was a failure but the impact they had during that mission was the most important thing that happened in the movie. That's why the movie ended with the force sensitive kid wearing Rose's ring.

Also if you want to talk about sjw crap in Star Wars then what about Sam Jackson in the prequel trilogy? He was literally on there to tap into the black market.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Dec 21 2017 04:13pm
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Dec 21 2017 04:16pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 21 2017 11:59pm)
Where is the proof?


everywhere really! take any of the characters before vs any now:

leia vs rey: both are strong female leads, both are very good at what they do. but once you get to like 25+ years of age, you start to realize that people tend to only actually be good at what they have experience at. if you try something for the first time, you will most likely fail, and leia is no exception to that. rey however is. first time with a lightsabre and she wins vs not only a trained individual, but one of the best trained individuals! mike tyson can be talented all he wants, but if he never trained, he wouldnt last 10 seconds vs a random trained boxer. mcgregor said it well: what i have is no talent, its training and hard work. i am not talented, i am obsessed. rey wins first vs kylo (who honestly isnt that scary to begin with), but later vs luke. LUKE. the best jedi who ever lived! that looks like a very forced role

vader vs kylo: vader was fucking scary. he was a calm motherfucker whom you dont wanna mess with. kylo on the other hand is a little bitch. he has no calmness, no authority, and seems to do some thing just to prove himself, which is not really something grownups tend to do :wacko: kinda feels like he was picked to be the male feminist who opposes authority of the alpha males, which is very visible because he looks more like j.p. from grandmas boy than an alpha male :wacko:

solo vs finn: imagine starwars without han solo. cant? neither can i! when he did something, those were things that none other could do! same goes for lando, the decisions he made were very unique and reflected a character and personality, the integrity to take one for the team for the endgame goal. finn? remove him and put ANYONE and you will have the same outcome. both in force awakens and now. he is replaceable. zero character, nothing anyone else in his place couldnt do

luke vs rey: luke made mistakes. the best jedi of all time, needed years before he could even pick a lightsabre! rey...picks it up and defeats that soyboy handily. wait, what? remember that vader absolutely humiliated luke the first time they fought. thats how its supposed to work!

so those are just a few character differences that heavily point to sjw agenda. there are many more differences that arent even char issues (capitalist planet or purple haired bossy girl for example), so much evidence for sjw agenda being pushed :wacko: but i dont wanna waste more time on writing all those, this should be more than enough for those who want to see :blush: !
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Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 21 2017 03:16pm)
everywhere really! take any of the characters before vs any now:

leia vs rey: both are strong female leads, both are very good at what they do. but once you get to like 25+ years of age, you start to realize that people tend to only actually be good at what they have experience at. if you try something for the first time, you will most likely fail, and leia is no exception to that. rey however is. first time with a lightsabre and she wins vs not only a trained individual, but one of the best trained individuals!


I'm sorry but are you serious? Do you actually not pay attention at all? Rey is a fucking seasoned fighter, she had spent her entire life fighting with her staff. You see her at the beginning of the movie scare off a junker then beat the shit out of other junkers. Kylo Ren on the other hand never finished his training (which is bright up multiple fucking times) and has probably never been in a real life or death fight before fighting with Rey.

Not to mention he was critically injured

Not to mention he was trying to turn Rey not kill her. She was fighting for her life, he wasn't.
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Dec 21 2017 04:21pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 21 2017 03:54pm)
if someone actually wants proof, i will be happy to provide :blush: ! sadly, you dont really want proof :( you seem to go to great lengths just to prove your point, and thats not the best ground for an intellectual discussion :unsure:

and sorry to say, but you are kinda the one who looks stupid :cry: that was never my intention, i just wanted to state my opinion! let me give you an advice! dont violently attack someone who can defend, you will lose much faster than if you didnt try that in the first place :cry:


"Don't VIOLENTLY attack someone"
LOL

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Dec 21 2017 04:22pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Dec 21 2017 06:08pm)
Omg so funny, that is basically exactly the words I used to describe you.



Fin and Rose have extremely important roles in the movie. They essentially embody the entire point of the movie. Did you even watch it?

The characters are black and Asian because those are the actors that tried it for the roles and were the best choice of the options available.

Plus their entire storyline in the movie is extremely important. Yes the mission they were sent on was a failure but the impact they had during that mission was the most important thing that happened in the movie. That's why the movie ended with the force sensitive kid wearing Rose's ring.

Also if you want to talk about sjw crap in Star Wars then what about Sam Jackson in the prequel trilogy? He was literally on there to tap into the black market.


Yeah I agree. That force sensitive kid at the end was a huge deal imo. It is opening the story up for multiple Jedi.
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Dec 21 2017 04:24pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 21 2017 03:16pm)
luke vs rey: luke made mistakes. the best jedi of all time, needed years before he could even pick a lightsabre! rey...picks it up and defeats that soyboy handily. wait, what? remember that vader absolutely humiliated luke the first time they fought. thats how its supposed to work!


Honestly what the fuck are you talking about? Literally the first Jedi training Luke has is using the lightsaber.

Not to mention Vader was literally the best fighter in Jedi history, and probably the strongest sith to ever live as well. Kylo didn't have anywhere near Vader's training.
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Dec 21 2017 04:25pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Dec 21 2017 06:24pm)
Honestly what the fuck are you talking about? Literally the first Jedi training Luke has is using the lightsaber.

Not to mention Vader was literally the best fighter in Jedi history, and probably the strongest sith to ever live as well. Kylo didn't have anywhere near Vader's training.


Yeah I didn't even bother replying to him. His points were all wrong imo.
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Dec 21 2017 04:27pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 21 2017 03:25pm)
Yeah I didn't even bother replying to him. His points were all wrong imo.


"Didn't use a lightsaber for years"

First training he ever has is using a lightsaber to deflect laser blasts from the children's toy thing while on the falcon.

Lol. This guy.

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Dec 21 2017 04:31pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 21 2017 02:22pm)
Yeah I agree. That force sensitive kid at the end was a huge deal imo. It is opening the story up for multiple Jedi.


It's Disney, ofc they're setting it up for dozens, if not hundreds of more movies, that's what they do lol.

Is this Snyft kid trolling, or was he just dropped on his head one too many times?
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Dec 21 2017 04:34pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Dec 21 2017 03:24pm)
Honestly what the fuck are you talking about? Literally the first Jedi training Luke has is using the lightsaber.

Not to mention Vader was literally the best fighter in Jedi history, and probably the strongest sith to ever live as well. Kylo didn't have anywhere near Vader's training.


Windu, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Palpatine, Maul, and Dooku are all better duelists than Vader.
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