Quote (Blah58 @ May 13 2017 01:18am)

Once again

Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 12 2017 11:24pm)

Where did I say anything about discussions?

I was talking about him getting angry. Clearly this is going way over your head.

Quote (Blah58 @ May 13 2017 01:32am)

Either you're an idiot, a troll or both. Either way you're not worth anymore time.

Quote (stupidkid282 @ Apr 13 2017 01:32pm)

1.. You are REALLY bad at understanding, and interpreting shows.... The show has selective pacing and uses flashbacks tracking the progress and showing the events that let up to her suicide.......this is so easy to understand. Of course you are going to see her acting. It all leads up to her suicide. All episodes are necessary to progress character development. You never want to take away from developing characters, small or large/

2. She was sexually abused and the show is showing how traumatizing that can be to anyone female or male. This is why she reacted the way she did during her intimate scene with Clay. She reacted the way she did with Zach because she literally lost all trust with his friends, in which he was involved in. After being abused, she has lost of sense of trusting another person whether they "like her" or just pursuing her for sexual reasons.

3. She didn't "play" victim, she WAS the victim. She was abused, raped, stereotyped, and had ongoing social failures.

4. She had friends. She moved to a new school, made friends and then had fallouts. Did you not pay attention?

5. The tapes were the only way she felt she could convey the horrible things that were done to her.

you ARE the problem with society today. you literally don't understand ANYTHING that this show conveyed. It's also not "overrated," it's currently one of Netflixs' most popular shows. it did VERY well in the short time it has been out.


You have to realize that this entire show is based on VERY real issues going on in today's society whether you choose to accept the existence or not. Everything about this show makes sense to me, and i can easily support the messages it conveys on all aspects.

Quote (jc3 @ May 20 2017 12:40pm)

ty spoilers

Quote (Blah58 @ May 20 2017 07:18pm)

You mean a thread made specifically for talking about a show actually talked about things that happened in the show?

Imo the worst part of the show is the girl who killed herself definitely wouldn't have done so if this situation was perfectly replicated in real life. The suicide is the fakest part of a show about the suicide. Hurts the message a lot imo.

Quote (stupidkid282 @ May 20 2017 04:35pm)

I don't understand where you're coming from. You're trying to say that you understand exactly what people think and feel in reality. You're trying to say that a young teenager can't have thoughts about suicide if they are a hurting, or have had traumatizing events happen to her.

You seem to underestimate how social "trauma" can hurt a young person and yes, how bullying can lead to suicide. It's apparent in the news more frequently than it should be, which is unfortunate.

Are you unhappy with the actual suicide scene itself? The scene itself was done very well. It wasn't pleasant to watch, which was the right message to convey.

Quote (Blah58 @ May 20 2017 11:09pm)

The way they portray the girl, especially when she is alone, is not the type of person to commit suicide. I would get it if they made her seem a bit more traumatized when she was alone but they didn't.

She basically looked like a girl who had it all, other than a few bad things happening to her. She had people that cared, wonderful parents etc. That's not how depression and suicidal thoughts manifest. I've gone through it and I've seen people go through it. They showed this girl to be extremely strong even when alone. It is a bad message to send, like saying 'if someone this strong and well off for can't fight how could I?'.

It just felt like they wrote a suicidal person without actually knowing how to do it. So they wrote a character that goes through some rough shit, and made her kill herself all without properly portraying how the person would actually be feeling.

It honestly felt like she killed herself because she was nihilistic and wanted to teach these people a lesson rather than wanting to escape.

Quote (stupidkid282 @ May 20 2017 05:15pm)

There's 7 billion people on this planet, and not everyone is going to react to depression the same way.


Like I've said in previous posts, this shows focus is more on bullying than suicide.

Quote (Blah58 @ May 20 2017 11:42pm)

There wasn't really any bullying in the show.

There was rape and attempted rape and stalking which are all a felony.
Her parents were having money issues which seemed like a tipping point for her decision when she lost the money.
There was how she reacted to others because of the attempted rape.
And everything else was basically people just calling her hot, which yeah it's harassment. And two friend backstabbing her, which sucks I agree but I don't think you could call her best friend slapping her because of the list/boyfriend thing bullying.

And yes I know people go through and perceive things differently but something everyone has in common is how real we act when we are alone. She acts normal as fuck alone.

Also I don't think the show was anti-bullying at all. The shit that happens to the photographer kid is way closer to traditional bullying than what happens to the girl and they never even talk about it like it is an issue, they basically hint that he deserves it because of his part in her suicide which is fucked up. Plus all the "bullies" save for 2 were more focused on how the tapes could fuck up their lives rather than being remorseful that they drove a girl to kill herself.

They hint at her previous town being a bad place for her because of bullying, maybe if they got more into that...

I personally think the main message is how her death affected Clay. Like if you kill yourself you will seriously fuck up those around you that care about you so maybe try getting help? The thing that is repeated the most is 'we could have saved her'. I think that is the message they are trying for. But they do it so sloppily that all these other negative things pop up along the way. Imo.