Nope.

Your main fault with the show is that Jimmy is back to square one? When the show first came out it was supposed to be "the story of how Jimmy McGill became Saul Goodmin" and it's just telling his story. I can understand people not liking the pace of the show (personally I love it, the pace makes the character actions and decisions make a lot of sense and seem more real) but as far as what's happened I mean come on.. this season he became a lawyer at a well respected law firm, tried to fit in, failed, and is literally on his way to becoming the Saul we knew in Breaking Bad and you say it's pathetic that we got to see that he actually struggled to decide what he wanted to do? I think his assessment of you want an action show is correct lol.

This post was edited by LightClaw on Mar 31 2016 03:10am

The way they went about it hasn't been optimal. All through BB you knew Saul was a dirtbag, but you wanted to believe there was more to him. The first season is him fighting tooth and nail to better himself and then you find out it's his own brother who he's cared for that fucked him. You see motive behind the decisions he eventually makes. However, then he gets opportunity after opportunity and he just fucking blows it. It's frustrating to watch and it makes you detach from the only character who we know will be alive at the end of the show. The first season made a lot of progression, and I think that most people (myself included) feel like they're just stalling at the moment and nothing is really happening.

Personally I find his messing up of most of his opportunities more humanizing than detaching as it's a completely relate able feeling. I guess I just don't get why so many people are finding it "frustrating" that he is blowing his opportunities, that's the name of the game for Jimmy lol. To me this whole season has been about delving into Jimmys pyche , the fact that he's been working a large portion of his adult life to get to where's he's at, a respectable position, only to find out it brings him no happiness. I can totally understand from a plot standpoint getting bored of the shows pace, seeing as how they've really only been advancing it with Mike (besides of course the overall general transition of Jimmy to Saul that's been going on) but I guess I've been happy with this season because few shows have given the real depth to characters I've seen in Better Call Saul.

the bolded line is where you are mistaken. The show made it clear from the end of S1 that he and the audience already knew beforehand that the D&M job would give him no happiness. He only did took the job for Kim. Seeing it play out was trivial for us and did not progress his character.


This describes how I feel as well. In S1, Marco dying and learning the truth about Chuck were major points of progression for Jimmy's character. Right now, he's in the same office with the same car, same relationship to Mike, Howard and Chuck as he had at the end of S1. The only progress for Jimmy's character has been with Kim, but that has been far too little for 7 whole episodes.

Hell, Kim's character has gone through more changes this season than Jimmy has. Her calling him to come do a little scam at the bar and then turning down the Schweikart job is greater progress than anything Jimmy has seen.

Mike, obviously, has done even more. Going through Pryce, Nacho, Tuco, Hector and his family have all been interesting interactions that progress his story.

The problem is that Jimmy is not involved in the Mike plotlines. Whereas in S1, their stories did intersect in meaningful ways. Hopefully Gus will come along and connect them. But I'm starting to lose hope.

This post was edited by kayeto on Mar 31 2016 11:33pm

I don't see it happening.

It was fairly obvious to me in BB that Saul never met Gus, he just knew that Mike was in that line of work now.

I don't agree at all that the D&M experience was trivial as we got to see the WHY behind the result we were expecting (him quitting.) Like I've said, I can understand being bored with the pace of the story line but I believe this season has been all about developing depth and closeness to the characters which I think they've done a great job of, they all feel very human. I don't expect to changes peoples opinions on liking this season I just feel like it's being viewed in the completely wrong context.

If we separate out the horrid pace from the quality of what's there, then I would tend to agree with you. Take all the character development that's happened and find a way to squeeze it into 3 episodes rather than 7 and I would probably find myself praising this show.

It's as though Vince Gilligan believes he has so much goodwill built up from S1 and BB both being good that he can now go ahead and milk AMC for more money by stretching a good story into twice as much air time than is needed.

wow ive been slacking i didnt know this thanks!

Definitely fair enough haha.