missed 2 eps due to being on holidays so i binge watched 3eps in a row, was not in my best mood when i was watching it...should have waited but i ill be re-watching whole season soon anyway

cant remember much but it felt like there was a lot of predictable moments (not usual WTF unpredictable GOT style) and fair few cringe scenes in last 3 eps, didnt feel like it was epic compare to previous eps but i think it was just me and i need to rewatch it in a good mood !

brah have u even look at the cover of winds of winter lol, and martin already said the tv took a different path then the books.

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You probably know, but Robert Jordan is all over the GRRM books. Lord Trebor (Robert..) Jordayne of the Tor of the great lords of Dorne. Archmaester Rigney (Jordan's real name) theorising that time is a wheel. etc etc.

Its been a long time since i read the books, but doesnt euron have the horn? I remember a guy blowing it and being cooked from inside because of the horn

Or maybe its just some random magical dragon horn idk

thats the dragon binder, its used for binding dragon, and r way bigger then the one in the cover. this horn is no doubt horns of winter,

Honestly I don't know why you dislike it so much. Yes we all knew Danny would come and save them that episode, but that doesn't mean there was no tension. Obviously Jon was going to live but basically everyone else was fair game. It isn't "they(entire group) obviously won't die" it is more like "who in the group won't make it". I don't think you can honestly say you didn't have some sort of "oh shit" or "what the fuck" moment when it looked like tormund was gone.

And I mean you say these "dues ex machina" scenes are bad, but like why are you ignoring the literal seasons of build up that they had? It isn't like they come out of no where, they had years of development and foreshadowing.

You complain that their entire plan was stupid because Cersei is fucking crazy, yet you ignore that literally no one except the audience realizes how fucking crazy she actually is. No one who made the plan knows of her as some crazy irrational mad Queen, only the audience does. The plan actually makes a lot of sense from the perspective of the characters. The living need to stop fighting eachother, do that by showing the real enemy. No one is crazy enough to not see a wight and not want to deal with that threat.

Season 7 finale was probably one of the most tense episodes of the entire series. I was never so stressed out watching a show before. How can you say that the show has lost that element? That episode was amazing.

ehh, except Tyrion knows. And it was Tyrion's plan. If he wasn't involved that rationale might have worked to explain the plan.

Tbh after this season, the world would be in such a better place if Tyrion died in that cell. He botched Dani's plan, and keeps her from just getting her throne on easy mode in a siege, because he wants a 'humane war.' Then he gave the NK a dragon with his shitty plan, and then he got played by Cersei in the finale. If he died in season 4, the walkers would still be beyond the wall, and Dani would have trashed KL by now and be sitting on the throne.

Not all good people are good rulers(advisors)

U dont understand anything... if dany would have crushed kl by fire no one would have wanted her as a queen except by fear, danys wants to break the wheel so tyrion plan is in that direction... and this is war u can't predict everything your enemies will do

No he doesn't, he has no idea what his sister has become. He knows she isn't nice, he also knows she is cold and calculating. Not one except the audience sees her as a mad queen, and tbh I think a lot of people are wrong to see her that way. I mean she if definitely headed there but I don't think it has quite happened yet.

Also Tyrion hasn't botched anything. He was outplayed. Telling Danny to not just go burn everything is definitely the correct play.

It's funny, people bitch the writing has gone down hill and shit like that(blame grrm not the showrunners, he has had 7 fucking years to write the current book), people bitch about the action scenes. Then people bitch that Danny hasn't just killed everyone with her dragons.