I disagree with the resurrection, that one had a completely fleshed out backstory and made sense given both the rules of the universe and the direction of the narrative
Cavalry one, i agree it was egregious
Getting trapped: the only real problem was the botched travel time issue. Other than that, it is perfectly fitting as the NK was intentionally laying it as a trap all along
Benjen save: Yea it was pretty bad, but there is a theory that maybe Bran sent Benjen to be there at that time at that place so if they vocalize that in S8 then it wont seem as bad



That's true, but not really a flaw in the show to me. GoT has 30 good characters, some of which have died. I don't really see a problem with 2 of them having enough plot armor that all viewers know they will survive at least up to a finale in which one of them dies.

The fact that the story is going to flip our expectations by having Jaime/Bran end up being the main chars at the end is enough surprise for me.


They really couldn't have though. They are making a beeline for the finish.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Aug 30 2017 04:53am

They could by NOT doing that. lol

I have a feeling it will be Roberts kid thinking about it

It is not possible for them to have NOT done that.

If we accept the premise the the ASOIAF book series is being adapted into a tv show, then we accept the realistic constraints of a show (time and budget). The only way for them not have these constraints is to never make a show.

After accepting that premise, we are forced to judge the quality of that show by the constraints that exist. Within the context of the TV industry, GoT is doing a 10/10 job adapting the source material it was provided with.

Is everything perfect? of course not. It's business. But criticizing it for those imperfections would be like trying to criticize Lebron's 2016 NBA championship because he lost 3 of the 7 games in the series. Not a fair criticism at all.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Aug 30 2017 05:16am

What source says that the show is rushing because of time and budget and not a free choice?

I found them mention doing 7 because of budget but it was because of their own choice to do big action scenes instead of good drama.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 30 2017 05:25am

I too found Littlefingers trial to be very tense?

The 'obvious last minute rescue' still had me tense, i kept wondering who was about to snuff it.. turns out it was Viserion - and i was gutted.



You do realise that at some point these big action scenes need to happen?

This post was edited by WelSh on Aug 30 2017 05:37am

The dramatic buildup thus far necessitates an ending that includes action scenes.

You can't have Dany give birth to dragons in S1 then NOT have those dragons grow up and smoke some battlefields. And even if you could, the source material established "dragons burning Harrenhal" as an integral part of the universe, so the show sort has to keep in line to some extent.

I loathe action-packed baysplosion pandering more than anyone you will meet. But I feel like GoT has struck a fair balance of legit char/plot development and then paying it off with action scenes when appropriate without being gratuitous. They spent a lot of time building up the WW threat, they have to let the audience see it play out.



They know that (1) they have to have certain events happen in order to get the finish line with the plot and (2) limited screen time in which to do it. They are backed into a corner and have to give Baelish an underwhelming death because they just can't squeeze S1-quality drama onto their timeline.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Aug 30 2017 05:39am

Yes. Preferably at the right point and without cop-out TV tropes and inconsistent timelines. And they don't have to spend the whole budget on them especially since, according to the majority from what I can tell, this season was worse than the prior ones.
That means throwing the whole budget into big action scenes instead of medium action scenes is actually making the show worse.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 30 2017 05:45am

I don't think anyone says not to have action scenes lol



Yes they can. Those are the scenes that give the show its high praise.
Lower the budget on the action scenes.


This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 30 2017 05:49am

Ok how many cgi/battle moments have we actually seen this season? Because i've seen this argument in here several times as of late and it's implied that GoT he suddenly turned into an all out Michael Bay explosion fest. But has that actually happened?

We've seen the dragons battle twice and the night king bring the wall down.

And cgi/battles have always been part of the show, right from the start. It's not a new thing.

Much of the show is still made up of dialogue between our favourite characters.

From what i've seen/read people have loved this season. Sure people have whinged about the questionable teleporting/timeline errors but it seems the show continues to be loved regardless. IRL mates keep fapping over it. The reddit GoT meta is stronger than i've ever seen. I know people laugh off ratings as being a useless reference to the quality of a show but if anything, they do show people are still hooked.

This post was edited by WelSh on Aug 30 2017 05:58am