https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/10-movies-that-changed-the-world/



These cherrypicked, concrete examples illustrate the point clearly. But the same concept can exist to a lesser degree, like slipping some social issues into an otherwise-harmless blockbuster fiction movie, knowing that the ideas will get absorbed subtly.



Yes, everything people see impacts them. The more someone is exposed to, the more they absorb. Jams Bond mowing down unnamed Russian henchmen impacts it. Kids shooting Nazis and Demons in DOOM has an impact.

Exposing people to some violent ideas allows them to be able to learn when violence is the right answer and when it is the wrong answer. Currently, I am seeing way too much pacifist propaganda that is creating a generation of pussies that will always follow authority and never stand up for themselves. Luckily we have some pro-violent ideas out there to offset that. Many violent movies take it to far, but there are also some good ones that address the right balance (Walking Dead, Cobra Kai). The movies Prisoners (jackman) was another good one actually. Although there was violence in it (responsible adult father was literally torturing a retarded kid, very tough to watch) it was presented within the context of meaningful ideas.

This post was edited by Kayeto on May 28 2018 04:54pm

I'm sorry, I thought you understood the difference between a fictional movie and a documentary.

I am specifically talking about Hollywood films, not documentaries, hence me limiting my wording to constantly say Hollywood.

What does that have to do with movies?



Tom Cruise is a Scientologist but that doesn't stop me from loving his movies.
You need to be able to separate your opinion of a person from your opinion of their work.

I don't care if a movie is made by a collaboration of Hitler, Stalin, Donald Trump, Satan, and the monster from IT.
If it's a good movie, I'll like the movie.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 28 2018 05:26pm

This.

I mean... that's kind of a stretch, don't you think lol? Especially when homosexuality is beginning to be so widely accepted in many countries, especially in Europe. It's still taboo in places like Russia and parts of Asia, but it's growing almost everywhere.




That's not what I was talking about at all.... Youtube and other "social media" outlets spread mostly half-truths, cherry-picked information or outright lies, the difference being that it's stupid people spreading lies as facts, vs intelligent people spreading lies as entertainment like with Television and Movies. I was directly speaking about the influx in factual information that's available around the world, and that people from other countries are now seeing us at our worst now vs just our movies and other propaganda efforts that tried to show us only in a positive light.



That's not how capitalism works.... There are plenty of entities out there actively fighting against the "spread" of homosexuality, but when you're fighting against human-nature with fear based rhetoric, you should eventually lose out in the era of information. How long it's taking is just further evidence into the influence of false information being spread as fact.



Every fucking person who gets blacklisted ends up with some excuse why it happened. Some of them may be true, but the majority of them are just fucking whiners who weren't good enough to make it. The truth is that with film, television, art and any other medium that works like this, is that there's a HUGE luck factor. Some people get lucky and if you're capable of making it over the hump and cementing yourself as a star, you can do w/e the fuck you want, and some people fizzle out and die before it even begins. There are plenty of successful republican/christian actors, directors, but once again, it is a field primarily dominated by Liberals, and if you've 80% liberals going to acting schools and auditioning for roles, you're going to have a disproportionate amount who make it in the business... That's just basic commonsense.



I don't think it makes as big of a difference as you seem to be claiming. The spread of acceptance has been a slow and gradual climb regardless of how supportive or "in-your-face" television and movies have been with the subject matter. It's like I said before, we're in the age of information and wanting to fuck everything is just animalistic nature. Dudes fucking dudes has been happening since the dawn of creation. People can hate it all they want because some fucking random book that copied and added to the Epic of Gilgamesh says it's wrong now, but that doesn't make it any less idiotic. If you're fighting against human nature/logic with "THIS BOOK SAYS NOT TO", you're going to lose out eventually, since all methods of control eventually stop working, and the bible/Christianity is just the latest/biggest control ploy to keep the masses in check.

I'm glad that it had an impact on you. I grew up in an a religious household, I spent 16-24 hours in church or doing church related activities a week, and my church was all fire and brimstone and anti-anything that wasn't 1950s acceptable. I was told I was going to hell for dying my hair by an elder once lol. I grew up starting in 2nd grade in a relatively small hick town where people flew confederate flags and I had beer cans thrown out of trucks at me when my hair dyed. Even in that close-minded of an environment and with no interactions with openly gay people (we had a couple in high-school WAYYYYY in the closet) I still knew that there was nothing wrong with it. I may not understand all the crazy shit coming out these days, and I think a lot of people are just seeking attention, but it's not my place to judge anyone and I think as long as both parties are consenting adults, you should be able to fuck whoever you want.




See, this guy gets it.

None of this shit matters, all that fucking matters is the end product.

I'll still watch any movie with Kevin Spacey because I think he's a phenomenal actor. Does that mean that I agree with his actions? Fuck no lol. That's not how shit works though. You being a terrible person, or a complete fucking idiot doesn't make me disrespect your ability to do your job well. Look at Clint Eastwood, after he gave that chair speech, it was clear the guy was a fucking retard when it came to politics without a single fucking coherent or truthful factoid in his head, but that doesn't mean I'm going to boycott his movies lol, the guy was a great actor and he's been a solid director (most recent movie aside). Another one, Tarantino, this guy is one of the biggest cunts in the world. I couldn't fathom trying to even have a conversation with him without losing my cool with how big of a pompous asshole I've heard he is. Does it make one fucking difference about how good his movies are? NOPE. They're still fucking amazing. People need to put their personal and petty bullshit aside, and if they can't, just stop watching movies and fuck off with your idiocy because all you're doing is wasting the time of everyone who understands how to separate reality and fiction.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 28 2018 09:26pm

Reminds me of that huge Oscar "controversy" a couple years ago where black people whined that people of colour are underrepresented in the Oscars because they had so few nominations. But then like... people with brains showed that proportionally everyone was represented equally. And then the next Oscar season was filled with poc as the institution fucking catered to the whiney bullshit rather than trying to attempt to appear to be a legitimate award based on actual talent.

If I was black and won an award off the back of that I would seriously be considering if it was even deserved. Would be a total buzzkill if you didnt have your head up your ass

Made 110 mil of the projected 150 mil opening weekend....

"Are movies about white men box office poison" is possibly the dumbest fucking headline imaginable seeing as the main cast (and almost all of the side cast) of Infinity War was white....

Helical showing off his big brains again though.