Just painful man... like, how do you rage at someone, when you don't even know what they're saying? At least try and read the fucking criticism first (and understand it), before getting your panties in a bunch and rage typing shit that doesn't even make sense. If you still disagree with it, maybe try putting forward your opinion on why it's not that, something along the lines of. Well, I think maybe this guy was super far away, and once he felt the sith lord/apprentice died, he thought he should make himself known and control the galaxy. Rather than just. YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO!!!!!!!! IT'S THE BEST STORY TELLING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 12:46pm

The rule of two isn't a "rule" of the story. In a storytelling concept, breaking the rule of two isn't a fucking plot hole because it doesn't break the laws of the universe. Not to mention the rule of two has basically never been strictly followed. You don't care for the direction they took the story, that is 100% fine. I don't give a shit. I just think it is silly to judge the work based on 2 years of hype that didn't get paid off rather than the story the writers want to tell

Like I said I'm not sure how I feel about the movie. But you, like stupidkid, like to put words in peoples mouth so you can try to argue a different point than the one that was presented to you. It's fine if you are unable to have a real conversation, but I recommend you just don't post if all you are going to do is misinterprete and then essentially argue with yourself.

E: there are many examples of bad storytelling on the movie, killing snoke is not one of them.

E2: I'm not even sure if the rule of two is canon anymore. I think it might be part of legends.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Dec 20 2017 12:52pm

Once again. The most powerful sith we've ever seen, just somehow goes unnoticed for decades because............? That's bad storytelling. However you want to try and justify it lol, it doesn't matter, you're not going to change my mind, or the minds of anyone else, unless you actually have a valid reason or theory as to why/how that might have happened, like the one I actually put forward, that you lost your shit over. Just saying, na, it's the best bra, it's good, no worries, is not having a discussion, it's you just tooting your own horn, like fucking always.

I thought it was an okay movie, but there was lots of stuff that either didn't make sense or that was just outright bad writing/story-telling. Here's a couple things off the top of my head, there are more, but there's a reason why this movie was only okay, when it could have been great.

Leia using the force for the first time ever to survive outside in an environment that would instantly kill anyone (this is not debatable, that's fucking science), was just stupid. Hans dice force disappearing was a pointless and stupid thing. Han never cared, believed, or practiced the force, why the fuck would a symbolic Han token be a force item? As has been discussed tons of time by other people, the entire Fin/Rose story was pointless, and that was upsetting after how pivotal he was to the story in Ep. 7. In fact, if hey would have just staid put, and not been complete idiots, they wouldn't have gotten 2/3s of the remaining resistance killed. I LOVE Del Toro, but it felt forced and pointless, and that was upsetting. Once again, that didn't make sense either. Here's a jail with 20 odd cells, lets throw all 3 criminals (the only 3 in the entire jail), into the same fucking cell. Be reminded this is apparently one of the most lavish/beautiful places in the world for the richest of the rich. If they got thrown into a cell, it'd be hotel room, and they'd have their own. How shitty the cells were was fine, but putting them all in 1 made no sense. Why he was chilling there when he could have walked out at anytime made no sense either.... Why he knew about the rebels fleeing on evac ships made no sense, since it wasn't part of their fucking plan, why would they tell him? There's just a lot of things throughout the movie that were like eh.... It wasn't terrible, but it could have been better, and as is the case with most Disney films, they seemed more concerned about marketing merchandise throughout the movie, vs making a movie that was just WOW. We'll see how they finish it up, but expectations are diminished, and I understand why it got such terrible fan ratings, even though I thought it was entertaining enough and enjoyable, even if it had a lot of eye roll moments throughout it.

E - I explained why it didn't make sense, it's not because Snoke is dead, I don't give a shit about him being dead, it's because he was alive in the fucking first place. Really can't make that anymore clear than I already have.... that could be explained by him still being alive in Ep 9. I do think he'd be a much better antagonist than whiny fucking Kylo, but I also don't mind if they keep him dead and Kylo leads the way, it's just another example of an eye roll moment if they at least don't explain where the fuck he came from. Also fine with him staying dead if they just find something, or if Kylo talks about where he came from or his history or anything to give some closure on something that otherwise is lazy/bad writing.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 01:02pm

Those ratings ...

He's a generous guy

E : He did say it's like his favorite franchise, so it makes sense he'd give it good ratings. I agree with the original 3 for the most part, but I'd go a bit lower on 4/6. Empire is easily the best of them all, and I think 9-9.5 is a fair rating. That movie blew my fucking mind the first time I saw it. It's hard to say what's what with stuff like this though, bias comes into play, this being one of my all-time favorite childhood series, and I'm sure that impacts my judgement a lot, but I do believe 5 was just a well-written movie and the twist was a fucking jaw drop for me at that age, I did not see that shit coming at all lol.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 02:01pm

Serious question, do you have someone that reads to you and that you dictate your responses back to? Because I honestly can't think of any other way for your comprehension to be so fucking bad.

1) Why are you assuming snoke is the most powerful sith ever? And if he was the most powerful sith ever he would probably be super wise and would stay hidden until the right moment. Which is what he did isn't it?

2) I have given plenty of actual reasons as to why the way they went with snoke isn't bad story telling, all I've gotten in response is "you're wrong it's bad story telling because I don't like it! Cry cry cry" it's funny to me that you say "Just saying, na, it's the best bra, it's good, no worries, is not having a discussion" when that is literally the opposite of what I am doing and an accurate description of the people who are replying to me.

It was more in regards to the recent ratings. I don't see how people aren't more upset at the last Jedi. I gusss after reading the thread I'm not alone though, it was way under all of my expectations.

Also the conversation was about whether snoke getting killed was bad or not, not about whether his character existing makes sense or not. Not sure why you are trying to change the subject and argue about something that no one else was talking about.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Dec 20 2017 02:18pm

No... it wasn't, as it was my argument that it didn't make sense, I don't think you're allowed to tell me what my point was, since you obviously don't have a clue, as per usual. Always like talking to a brick fucking wall.



Plenty of people are not thrilled. The user ratings were not kind, and that's pretty surprising, since the masses are usually moronic. I get why it got a 93% though. Even though it had TONS of faults, it wasn't a bad movie, and for a movie to get a 93%, that just means that 93% of people said it was a C or better, which I think it's pretty fair.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 02:21pm

You seriously have no reading comprehension it is fucking amazing.

WILL BIG S P A C E D O U T LETTERS WORK BETTER FOR YOU PAL?

THE CONVERSATION IN THE THREAD BEFORE YOU DECIDED TO JUMP IN WAS ABOUT SNOKE GETTING KILLED. YOU JUMPED IN AND HAD NOTHING TO ADD SO YOU DECIDED TO TAKE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT AND TRY TO SWITCH THE CONVERSATION, INTO WHETHER HIS CHARACTER EXISTING AT ALL MAKES SENSE. NO ONE ELSE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Dec 20 2017 02:25pm