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Sep 9 2019 07:07pm
Quote (GuyLadouche @ Sep 9 2019 06:44pm)
lol, cept you don't see a single storm troopers face? there is no demographic just a soldier.


So you know that in the original trilogy the Empire is basically Nazi Germany and the Storm troopers are literally pulled straight from Nazi Germany, aka white blond hair blue eyed humans. If you try to argue that the storm troopers weren't supposed to be a symbol of white power/nationalism then you cannot argue that tlj is feminism bs

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Quote (GuyLadouche @ Sep 9 2019 06:04pm)
ok that's fine sure, white guys were historically bad guys in SW. But there wasn't historically a lot of diversity in star wars. But now if you look at the movie, every other fighter pilot is non white, (if u need to be embarrassed by another video posted I can) and again, I really have no problem with it. But then why the fuck does every bad guy "COP" have to be a white male. There is no diversity there, no equal/accurate representation. It really looks like they are trying to convey some message. If u truly don't see or believe that then you are a bias dummy.


:rofl:

It's just too fucking funny man.


So, use some commonsense here, lets see how far you can get. Yes, there has been increased pressure on Hollywood to increase roles for minorities in films. We've seen this in just about every movie from the past decade. Them filling speaking rolls with minorities, but keeping bad guys as your traditional white guys, as they always are in SW, is either super leftist propaganda, designed to make all white people feel bad, that could potentially cost a company that only cares about money billions of dollars, or it's nothing and you're a psycho for reading into something that doesn't matter in the first place, which is more likely?

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So you know that in the original trilogy the Empire is basically Nazi Germany and the Storm troopers are literally pulled straight from Nazi Germany, aka white blond hair blue eyed humans. If you try to argue that the storm troopers weren't supposed to be a symbol of white power/nationalism then you cannot argue that tlj is feminism bs


Shhhh, don't use logic and facts against him, he HATES IT.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Sep 9 2019 07:11pm
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Sep 9 2019 07:22pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 9 2019 07:09pm)
:rofl:

It's just too fucking funny man.


So, use some commonsense here, lets see how far you can get. Yes, there has been increased pressure on Hollywood to increase roles for minorities in films. We've seen this in just about every movie from the past decade. Them filling speaking rolls with minorities, but keeping bad guys as your traditional white guys, as they always are in SW, is either super leftist propaganda designed to make all white people feel bad, or it's nothing and you're a psycho for reading into something that doesn't matter in the first place, which is more likely?



Shhhh, don't use logic and facts against him, he HATES IT.


LETS USE SOME COMMONSENSE.

k yes pressure on Hollywood to diversify. Yep they seemed to fucking nail it on the "good guy" side. But on the bad guy side its one demographic. And they almost seem to make a point of it with pointless shots like the one at 2:10. Just try and explain the cinematics of the shot at 2:10 of the clip? there is no balance. the attempt to correct by swinging the pendulum completely the other way instead of a balanced view for a diverse galaxy which u might expect in star wars lol

Lets use some common sense. In a galaxy far far away where we got characters like Jar Jar Binx and others, what are the odds that Casino Planets "Cops" force all like 12+ shown in a 4 minute clip would be a white male? Cant like 1 or 2 of them be idk, an alien looking fuck, or like a girl, or non white? Idk just seems weird that they only hire whites on casino planet. But then again they are the "worst kind" of people lol...

K, then lets look at the narrative. "HANDS UP!, HANDS UP" (twice) and Benicio's char "OK Bro" or some shit like that. The "cop" has a gun pointed directly at him. Then directly next scene, Finn refers to the white males as "COPS". When in the fuck of starwars has anyone referred to a group as "Cops"? never. this whole scene just really strongly echos tones of our current climate when it comes to politics etc. And its not like im just pulling these themes out of my ass. attack on white males and cops has been discussed.

But u are still trying to argue that these themes or tones don't exist? I post a clear video and point out multiple specific points and scenes that support my argument again. Your response is some random made up shit about the secret life of pets 2? A completely different movie than the one we are discussing? You honestly are the waterboy of the debate club.

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Totally, it's liberal propaganda because they added minorities in and kept something the same as it's always been. Your argument gets stronger and stronger the more you scream it. The fact that you're too stupid to see the relevance between my facetious review of Secret Life of Pets 2 and this, is just further proof of you being too incompetent to have a conversation without YouTube providing your material.
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Sep 9 2019 10:19pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 9 2019 07:53pm)
Totally, it's liberal propaganda because they added minorities in and kept something the same as it's always been. Your argument gets stronger and stronger the more you scream it. The fact that you're too stupid to see the relevance between my facetious review of Secret Life of Pets 2 and this, is just further proof of you being too incompetent to have a conversation without YouTube providing your material.


I posted a 4 minute clip as undeniable proof that you are in fact an idiot. I told you I haven't seen the movie you made a fake review about as a means to try and disprove? we are talking about one movie and u bring up a completely different one to support your argument? I use specific examples from the movie we were actually talking about. Then again you are terrible at debate? we both saw TLJ? cant u bring a solid example from that movie lol?


Ur argument is honestly pathetic? added minorities in but kept something the same as its always been? really? that's the best u can come up with? Some attempt at sarcasm?


I think we both realize that I have a legitimate argument, you are a bias trashcan with nothing more than what?

Also stupid, im not just saying because they literally left every bad guy as white male its leftist trash. Its that compiled with the dialogue "Hands up, Hands up" while the cop has a gun pointed at the guy. The line was almost "don't shoot" but they made it like ' ok bro' to not make it completely obvious. I guess if they did even a dummy like you couldn't deny it then? Its then followed by the explicit use of the term "COP" in a star wars movie? over 10+ star wars films I don't think ive ever heard anyone referred to as a "COP" lol (can u think of one?, again if u can, this is literally evidence that supports your argument. Please find it if u can, it strengthens ur argument when debating.)

and then just random fucking pan outs of these bad guy "COPS" making sure to show their random ass faces in the movie as white males. CAN U just FOLLOW those or connect the dots? or read between the lines stupid? ITS literally 3+ things I mention from a 4 minute clip that support it... but nah its bat shit LOL

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Sep 9 2019 10:29pm
Argues with the guy trolling him cuz he feels he can win, ignores the person who actually presents something resembling a good point.
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Argues with the guy trolling him cuz he feels he can win, ignores the person who actually presents something resembling a good point.


:rofl:

Pretty funny right? At least someone here caught on. I abandoned any semblance of a real discussion about 6 pages ago.

e: Obviously he's still an idiot, but purposefully trying to piss off an idiot is a lot more fun than having a pointless debate.

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Argues with the guy trolling him cuz he feels he can win, ignores the person who actually presents something resembling a good point.


The Empire is Nazi Germany?... Because they were all white suits?

mmmk maybe, maybe Lucas said it was based off that? Idk did he? im not sure.

That's pretty much where similariity ends tho? its not like the storm troopers have little symbols on their suits (on the back? clearly not on the sleeve), or carry around little flags with specific symbols. Or throw up a weird hand salute whenever the emperor walks by. if they did then it would strengthen whatever your point is?

except they don't, they just have a white armor, u never see their faces. Do you have any other thing to back up what u claim? Again Idk if Lucas made this comparison himself so idk...

u got one thing to support that claim at this point,.. not very strong imo.

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Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Sep 9 2019 10:35pm)
:rofl:

Pretty funny right? At least someone here caught on. I abandoned any semblance of a real discussion about 6 pages ago.



Get absolutely slammed in debate. Made to look like a complete fool and bias trashcan.

Resorts to "trolling"

Classic.

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Quote (GuyLadouche @ Sep 9 2019 09:37pm)
Get absolutely slammed in debate. Made to look like a complete fool and bias trashcan.

Resorts to "trolling"

Classic.


Whatever you have to tell yourself to get to sleep at night kiddo. You lost the minute you failed to make a single credible point and then acted like Helidipshit siding with you was win. You're an idiot, nothing you've said has made a damn bit of sense and you've constantly countered against logic and facts with the type of mindless ramblings the idiot you voted for loves so much.

Deciding to purposefully piss off an idiot doesn't mean I've lost, it just means I know having a serious debate with you is pointless. Time and time again you've dodged every single question, even dumbed down ones that I thought for sure a mongoloid like you would be able to answer, that haven't already been addressed on YouTube. Just face it man, you can't think for yourself and that's fine, the world needs idiots and you're filling that much needed position. Thanks buddy

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