I disagree. I think it’s bad storytelling and you don’t. Let’s move on.


I’ve also previously stated that I want to see how they wrap it up in 9 before I judge too hard.

And FYI, as an audience, we have every right to critique movies on what they did, didn’t do, and could have done. Common sense.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Dec 20 2017 05:30am

It's factually bad story telling, regardless of opinion

lets stop arguing movie was bad payed critics overall user rating rotten tomatoes 50%


finn rose was bs no force being used in action scenes was bs the whole island thing was bs leia should've taking admirals spot and have an heroic death luke should've fought kylo then disapear like obi wan did to vader


tired of the republic resistance rebels plot this was ended at episode 6 with vader/emperor dead and everyone dancing and feasting


overall trilogy will be worst then episode 1-2-3 that says alot

Indeed they didnt explore the emperor character during the original trilogy to focus on the other characters, which lucas corrected in the 1-2-3. Snoke character needed the development since he is extremely old and probably date from the original trilogy and you had at the time palpatine Who was applicating firmly the rule of 2, which indicates that if Snoke isnt palpatine, you had another sith living while palpatine was alive Who was powerful enough to hide his force from the other force users.

Maybe, maybe not. I still think there's a possibility that he's not dead. Either it's HORRIBLE storytelling, with massive fucking plot-holes, or he's Darth Plagueis, and he's not done yet. That would explain everything, and then It would actually give hope for the final movie, since fucking Kylo is an awful supreme leader (big bad guy, wtf ever).

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 09:27am

So you clearly have no fucking clue what a plot hole is. I know you will ignore this because you hate to be wrong and actively ignore everything that might convince you that you have ever been won't in your life but whatever, back on point.

A plot hole is breaking the rules set up in the story. Nothing more nothing less. For example, if they had not said Leia was force sensitive then her sending Hans death or using the force to go into the space ship would have been plot holes. They break the rules they set up. But she was force sensitive so those aren't plot holes.

Killing a character you didn't want them to kill isn't a plot hole, it breaks no rules set up for the story.

The rule of 2 is a well established rule of SW. Having a third who's more powerful than any other sith is a huge fucking plot hole lol. You just never know wtf you're talking about, which is why I try to ignore you. No matter how spelled out shit is, you still can't grasp the simplest concepts, and you always rage about things you don't understand. it was the greatest storytelling EVER!!! I'm blah, anyone who disagrees with me is wrong and just didn't like the way it was told.

I don't give a shit that he died, or that it was anticlimactic and pointless, but ignoring that rule entirely makes nooooo fucking sense. It's practically the only rule of the sith throughout the movies lol, that and that the apprentice will always rise up to challenge the master eventually. Typical Blah fashion though, triggered as fuck over something he completely misunderstood. Him being Plagueis would explain how he lived during the previous Master/Apprentice era, he had intimate knowledge of the current master, and was able to mask his presence from him, and it would also explain why he's stronger than the other sith we've seen, since he's probably hundreds of years old, due to him being able to regenerate his body. This would make sense and tie together, and there's no saying it won't happen. However, if there another random more powerful sith out there, just chilling, not doing anything, that doesn't make sense, and it's bad storytelling... Not sure why you don't get that, but this is you we're talking about, and it's why I'm being as nice as possible and making sure to thoroughly explain this insanely simple concept to you.

We get it man. You liked the movie, and everyone who has a problem with the way it was told, or with the poorly developed antagonist/protagonist, or anything else, is just wrong, and you're right. We know.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 12:00pm

Seriously though, why does he make me do this? We both know it won't do a lick of good either.

He’s always right and we are always wrong, obviously.