That might be what ends up happening in the comics. But if we are just judging on what the show has done, I don't agree with that assessment.

The driving force of those two characters' aspect of the show (which is not the driving force of the show overall since other characters are just as important), to me, has been HL and Butcher realizing that they are more alike than they are different. Their abusive fathers have led them to a similar place.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Mar 14 2022 10:31am

You're missing the point. Different walks of life, one has to destroy Supes, one realizes that they're people like everyone else (mostly due to his relationship with Starlight), regardless, a confrontation with Homelander and the Seven is unavoidable and it's been a driving point of the show since the very first episode.... Purposefully putting up the blinders because you want nothing to happen forever, doesn't change what is.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Mar 14 2022 10:38am

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the only reason they have managed to do anything and stay alive for those 2 seasons is the supers that have been helping them.



yeah the way they are playing Homelander and Butcher off eachother, there definitely has to be a reckoning. Season 2 basically spent butchers entire screen time setting that up.



Translucent had nothing that w would make him hard to take down though. Having hard skin doesn't mean you are harder to overpower. No super strength or anything.



This post was edited by Blah58 on Mar 14 2022 03:37pm

I'm not ignoring it since I already said "they can use the power of other supes" and "They do it naturally, by making alliances, persuading or bargaining with something the supes want".

We've seen humans find a way to 'stand up' with different strategies, including making alliances with other supes. That dynamic has been a big part of the show. Stan Edgar is another example of someone who hasn't needed powers personally (at least we haven't seen him with any) to stand up to supes.

The claim that the only way Butcher could stand up to HL is by developing his own personal powers runs contrary to what we've seen. Other possibilities (like using technology, teaming up with other supes or finding a weakness) have proven successful on the show.



Using tech to kill a B-tier supe in the pilot was a great way to set viewer expectations that other plans can be developed in the future to take out stronger targets. And the following episodes have continued developing the path that the pilot laid out. A decent amount of time so far has been spent on showing us that HL has weaknesses as well.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Mar 15 2022 02:55am

"A confrontation", I agree. But that confrontation doesn't just have to be a brawn vs. brawn matchup of HL vs. Billy the Supe.

If this was a formulaic MCU story, then it would be true that the inevitable conclusion is a brawn vs. brawn matchup of superhero vs. supervillain. But thankfully, The Boys subverts that. In fact, subverting that trope has been a core part of the show's identity.

The confrontation between Butcher and HL can take many different forms. Each season finale has depicted a confrontation between Butcher and HL. Neither of them was stereotypical brawn vs. brawn showdown. Instead, they focused on Butcher trying to use alliances and expose HL's weaknesses.

If The Boys ends with a big brawl pitting the powers of Superhero goodguys vs. Supervillain baddies, then it is going to be a real disappointment to see them abandon their creative approach and cheapen things with a fight that belongs in "Baysplosions 5: Snyder Cut".

This post was edited by Kayeto on Mar 15 2022 03:19am

How many times can homelander let Billy walk away without just outright murdering him, how long before that gets old as fuck?

You’re still not grasping what Homelander is, there isn’t some magical green rock that just suddenly makes him weak, because that was always stupid.

Believing that a physical confrontation has to be anything like the mediocrity that is the Marvel universe, speaks much more on your lack of imagination than anything else.

Watch the show, come back in a few years when you realized you were wrong, we’ve got nothing but time.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Mar 15 2022 10:08am

Dude made-up an opinion, doesn't matter how illogical it is, he's sticking to it.

Supes have been the only thing keeping The Boys alive, whether it's a baby shooting lasers, the Female saving someone's ass for the millionth time, Starlight showing up at the perfect time, or even mini Homelander coming to the rescue. The second a compound that could literally turn people into supes was introduced, people should have known this was inevitable. Like I said though, him thinking Billy or anyone else having powers means that a showdown between the two sides will be anything like the absolute fucking snooze fests we've seen in the past decade from Marvel, speaks a hell of a lot more to his lack of imagination than anything else.

I'm sure they'll continue taking things to different places, like they have the entire show, but there was always going to be a physical confrontation with supes and The Boys, it had to happen. If you don't like it, take it up with Ennis.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Mar 15 2022 10:17am

I wonder if they’ll delve into the black noir storyline this season

I fucking hope so man. I started rewatching the first two seasons earlier this week ( only got a few episodes left ) and Noir is the fucking best. He does so much funny/random shit

Also, for everyone here who loves the boys, watch Diabolical. Not all of the episodes are good, but 3/8 are fucking fantastic, and a few others are good. 2 was hilarious was well, it was made by Justin Roiland, which is super obvious from the first minute of the episode. Episode 8 is a bit about Noir, so worth checking out. I would advise skipping episode 1, I almost turned the show off entirely because of how boring it was.

E: If you want to know what Hughie should have looked/sounded like, check episode 3. Honestly, I don’t mind almost all the changes they’ve made from the source material, they’ve created an alternate story adding new content to one of my all-time favorite universes. That being said, I HATE season 2 hughie, I hate that they made him this whiny little combative bitch that suddenly thinks he’s better than Billy after doing fuck all.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Mar 15 2022 10:03pm

should I watch this?