I didn’t mind it, but there was a lot of room for improvement

I went in the other way. Since it's a superhero movie (kinda), I had abysmally low expectations and was kind of surprised by it. I'm hoping the sequel is at least on par. I do love Tom Hardy and I think he was a great choice for Venom, so hopefully they don't fuck this up too bad.

Did not watch vid clip. Normally all they portray are the best parts of 3 minutes and the rest of 40+ minutes is trash... but everyone just gauges it all from the clip... stupid mistake.

Eh I thought the first one was pretty bad.

Venom really needs that Spider-man origin story imo. I kind of feel like all these movies starting with an origin story is annoying. Like we all know that stuff, we don't need an origin reboot every 5 years.

Should have done a faithful adaptation of lethal protector and skipped the origin nonsense.

When you say “we all know”, what percentage of moviegoers do you think actually does? Unless it’s a well established character like Wolverine in his freaking 10th movie, studios aren’t going to assume the audience is familiar with the character and they’d be right. If even 25% of people knew I’d be surprised. Your average person has the attention span of a goldfish and there’s a reason blockbuster films ALWAYS have to spell shit out for their audience.

Movies in general would be a million times better if every director/writer/studio created projects with the singular purpose of making a worthwhile film, but their goal is first and foremost $$$ . The easiest way for them to ensure they at least make some money, is to follow the same formula everyone else does.

Make it PG-13 (even if it has fuck all business being anything but R)
Cast familiar faces
Fill the first half of the film with *bad* jokes
And have more action than plot

If the story, acting, and everything else are subpar they can at least make their nut by following the rules. Until people stop paying to see every major blockbuster that follows this formula, F&F, Transformers, anything Marvel, they’ve got no reason to switch it up.

Lower your expectations as much as possible and hope you can find some enjoyment out of it, that’s my tactic and it works okay.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 15 2021 06:44pm

It's a lot better than bubble gum Blast!

Spider-man and relevant characters have had multiple different instances of their origins being told over multiple different decades and multiple different mediums. A lot of people, especially in the Western world, are going to be aware of the origins of the bigger comic book characters.

Even if you want to argue that venom isn't big enough to be known and I accept that argument, so what? Why does every single fucking comic book movie need to be an origin story?

Look at most action films, we don't get 65 fucking minutes of "here is the character" we get like "it's ok I'm a cop, been doing it 11 years." Then he breaks into a building and kills a terrorist group.

If you really must have an origin, do it in a strategic opening scene or flash back or have a character for their past show up for 5 minutes.

"But we have to see him grow into his powers" ok then do a Batman year one style story. Also "growing into his powers" was never the interesting part of Eddie. Being a completely narcissistic asshole villian incapable of accepting responsibility for his decisions turned "actual fucking human" is the important part of his origin and it was never even considered for the venom origin film. If you aren't going to stay true to the character with your origin, skip it and hint at it. Don't spend the majority of a feature film thrashing it.

It's because every single one of them is hoping it turns into a franchise.... Yes, there been multiple memorable Spider-Mans, but we had one Venom prior to this and it was an absolute fucking joke and it was like 15 years ago.... How can you possibly think your average moviegoer would remember that?

I'm not arguing that their way of doing things is correct, I stated the exact opposite in my post and a number of other times in this forum. I'm simply explaining why this is the formula and why it won't change. Unless 70,% of moviegoers stop drooling over the next Michael bayesque film, there's little hope for truly amazing blockbuster films and even less so when talking superheros, since even when dealing with amazingly dark subject material like Venom, they STILL give it a fucking PG-13 rating

Big budget blockbusters are about making money. Due to the nature of your average moviegoer, that process for squeezing every dollar won't and can't change. It just gets worse every single time a studio goes out on a limb and lets a real project unfold and it falls below expectations.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 15 2021 10:15pm

From the trailer for this one I bet there will be like 3 scenes mentioning Eddie and Kasady. Like a scene of Kasady writing a letter and Eddie seeing a letter from whatever prison and tossing it. A scene of some detective pissed cuz Kasady will only talk to Eddie, a shot holding on the news paper article that we saw in the trailer and that's it. It's unlikely but maybe we will get 1 scene of Eddie and Kasady talking prior to all the shit that will go down.

Imagine if instead of spending 85 minutes as a sweaty mess that could barely form a sentence in the first movie we got to see little bits and pieces, maybe the tail end, of the Eddie/Kasady thing? It's so frustrating tbh, origin movies are typically trash and it leads down a garbage road of future projects starting off on shit footing.

This post was edited by Blah58 on May 15 2021 10:33pm

What?