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Nov 12 2018 08:30pm
Quote (Blah58 @ Nov 12 2018 07:27pm)
I mean when your company goes bankrupt 3 times after your major creators leave because of authorship issues and your remaining "big hitter" doesn't actually help you survive I'm pretty sure that nothing more needs to be said.


Failing at keeping a comic company in the black for 30 years now means that you didn't create anything to begin with? Seriously, are you just not capable of putting together a coherent thought today, or what? Every major comicbook publisher struggled for awhile, no one gave a shit about comics when games took the world by storm. It's like you're just purposefully trying to lose this one...
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Nov 12 2018 09:08pm
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Failing at keeping a comic company in the black for 30 years now means that you didn't create anything to begin with? Seriously, are you just not capable of putting together a coherent thought today, or what? Every major comicbook publisher struggled for awhile, no one gave a shit about comics when games took the world by storm. It's like you're just purposefully trying to lose this one...


Funny, DC never went under. In fact they absorbed a bunch of smaller creators that were making original things to keep comics going. Hell Todd McFarlane, the man who created a lot of the iconic Spider-man things we know today, the guy who left Marvel after a lot of issues with the company, went on to make an extremely successful comic book company that was successful during this time of struggle you mention.

Plus Marvel didn't struggle once, they struggled multiple times, filled bankruptcy 3 times.

Hell you could argue that Marvel only succeeded as a comic book company because DC was successful in creating the sort hero comic industry, then successful in reviving it in the 50-60s.

So when you say stuff like "was instrumental in the creation and mainstreaming of many of the early and most important characters that made the comic book world what it is today."

No I'm sorry he wasn't. DC was. McFarlane was, Moore was, Kirby, Ditko, John Byrne and Claremont were both hugely important for X-Men

Lee was an editor that took credit for literally anything and everything Marvel put out.

I'm not saying he didn't do anything great, I'm saying his all encompassing greatness is vastly over stated. Yes he did good things for the industry. He also took advantage of others. He is 100% Steve Jobs.

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Nov 12 2018 09:55pm
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Funny, DC never went under. In fact they absorbed a bunch of smaller creators that were making original things to keep comics going. Hell Todd McFarlane, the man who created a lot of the iconic Spider-man things we know today, the guy who left Marvel after a lot of issues with the company, went on to make an extremely successful comic book company that was successful during this time of struggle you mention.

Plus Marvel didn't struggle once, they struggled multiple times, filled bankruptcy 3 times.

Hell you could argue that Marvel only succeeded as a comic book company because DC was successful in creating the sort hero comic industry, then successful in reviving it in the 50-60s.

So when you say stuff like "was instrumental in the creation and mainstreaming of many of the early and most important characters that made the comic book world what it is today."

No I'm sorry he wasn't. DC was. McFarlane was, Moore was, Kirby, Ditko, John Byrne and Claremont were both hugely important for X-Men

Lee was an editor that took credit for literally anything and everything Marvel put out.

I'm not saying he didn't do anything great, I'm saying his all encompassing greatness is vastly over stated. Yes he did good things for the industry. He also took advantage of others. He is 100% Steve Jobs.



I don't want to believe it. But you may be right. In the media business, this kinda thing happens quite often. Beyond the media business, it happens everywhere.


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Nov 12 2018 10:03pm
can u guys go away with ur bickering between each other? this thread was to pay respects to a legend. stan lee created characters to show everyone, no, to inspire everyone, that their is a hero in each and every one of us and that comes from being able to make the choice to do good, no matter how many times life throws shit your way, no matter how easy it would be to give in and give up. And finally, that we all have this great power inside, and with that power, comes great responsibility.

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can u guys go away with ur bickering between each other? this thread was to pay respects to a legend. stan lee created characters to show everyone, no, to inspire everyone, that their is a hero in each and every one of us and that comes from being able to make the choice to do good, no matter how many times life throws shit your way, no matter how easy it would be to give in and give up. And finally, that we all have this great power inside, and with that power, comes great responsibility.

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Nov 14 2018 03:04am
RIP

Honestly, he probably should have retired like 20 years ago... Think Marvel needs some new blood.
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Nov 14 2018 11:15pm
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Sad that he died but he was 95 so not really, because that's a pretty long life.

I think he gets too much credit for character creation. He's like Steve Jobs.

Also his cameos were always the worst part of Marvel movies so can't say I'm sad to see those will be gone.


He's like most Management types take the credit for allowing others to do the work.
His recent cameo in teen titans was quite humorous. it Sucks to see him go but he lived a full life at 95.
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Nov 18 2018 09:25am
Man, i saw something on facebook that had him fading away and i was like, "Dang, i know he's old but damn." And then saw more and more and realized it was legit. :(

R.I.P Mr.Lee
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