Survivorman is with Les Stroud right???

IF so , yea it is pretty good, but you say is alone .... but Les does like if he was alone with his own camera, but sometimes there are some shots of him from far away .... pretty sure he isn't alone really

Yes he is alone... Have you ever seen the making of the show?

He places a camera, gets the shot, and walks all the way back for the camera. Sometimes he says he leaves his cameras behind for his crew to get after filming. He has to carry around his camera equipment everywhere he goes, on his hike out he will say fuck it and leave some of it behind.

He films the whole thing solo, with his crew miles away

This post was edited by Meatstick on Jul 2 2013 01:09pm

I'd call it a real lesson then.
How that is not surviving, more primitive, maybe not educationa professional - hifi surviving. Maybe it's even more literally surviving.
last sentence doesnt make sense.

being naked is a lesson? in what situation these days sounds reasonable where you would need to survive completely naked?

les stroud was realistic about it..he wore clothes people would be wearing in the environment, he had to survive in the type of situations people actually face in disasters like a small plane crash, boat sank and you are in a raft etc.

naked and afraid is the exact opposite of education...for christ sakes the people in the first episode were ranked higher afterwards even after losing A LOT of body weight, only managing food twice once being stupidly dangerous and the other complete luck, burned down their shelter because they didn't think..hey maybe putting fresh leaves where the heat is catching to lessen the risk of it drying out and burning in the night is a good idea.

they were complete and total amateurs that offered no examples of smart choices, shelter building skill, finding food regularly, water purification...basically all the things that you need to survive for a prolonged period of time and not be inches from death aside from fire...which they had a tool for otherwise i don't think it ever would of happened.

Lesson of mortality, even technological and whatnot 'evolution', we are still fragile and probably are pretty much 100% alike to the times when we lived without mass producted clothes.

You don't seem to understand that it is different, a bit experimental survival show.

Maybe your judgement wouldn't be as top noch if you hadn't eaten for weeks.
They were amateurish, maybe, but still surviving. Op didn't ask for (very) educational surviving shows.

Actually by watching not pro surviving, it might make you think what and how you would do thing. Thus a good, different, challenging lesson.

This post was edited by BebebBurns on Jul 3 2013 01:49am

Naked and Afraid is a fucking terrible show if you're looking for any actual survival techniques.

we are fragile? compared to what? there are on top of the food chain for good reason....fragility isn't the reason btw

we all know we can die...the ONLY POSSIBLE thing a smart person would take from that show is that they shouldn't trust any jackass that calls them self a survivalist. those 2 are prime examples of people who cause other people to get hurt in the wild.

if i hadn't eaten for weeks i'd be on the verge of death because i am an ignorant person that has no clue how to survive. for christ sake when you haven't eaten in a week and someone says "lets hunt and kill that monkey" and you aren't on board with that plan immediately out of fear of a tiny monkey....you are just a gigantic idiot that will be dead soon.

it's not a maybe...their only knowledge that i seen was how she said to find sticks shaped like Y for building...common sense stuff.

if they wanted to "simulate" primitive survival they shouldn't of been allowed the firestarter and machete. once you allowed modern items into the mix it makes ZERO sense to not allow them clothes. what kind of situation leaves you stranded with a machete, firestarter, no clothes? its just gimmick.

your last sentence makes about as much sense as saying everyone should be taught first by a dumbass for everything so they can learn how to make mistakes. you don't WANT to learn how to make mistakes int he wild. you want to learn to NEVER make mistakes. picking up bad habits from watching an idiot is only detrimental.



just another dumbass reality tv show. gotta love how people ripped off survivoman and made it into a retard drama bomb survival show.

Even if you think you are comptely badass survival guru - you might be wrong. Top of the food chain: Fat slobs ordering pizza, allright then... We aren't very grounded to nature.

Maybe their brain chemistry had altered so much that they couldn't think straight and were clouded by pessimism. You sound like one of those über mensch persons who can't understand depression. "It's like get a grip youself and just get going!", nope.

The firestarter and machete seems to be the gimmick/random then? Obviously they didn't want to simulate complete primitive survival. You think you are handy survival fellow + you get to pick and excellent, helpful item = you most likely will still struggle = fragile, even when we think we are prime example of top of the food chain.

When you seem other people making mistakes, you understand that you might have done the same in that situation and understand what not to do. Should make you think what you should do then, not just blindly mimic and copy. Getting tips from pro surely is the good stuff but if you can use your creativity and brain a bit you should be getting something out of
that stuff.

we aren't fragile either. lots of people think we are fragile but the fact is humans are the most deadly, most adaptive, incredibly resilient species on the planet. calling us fragile is just absurd. unhealthy people being used to reflect the entirely of the species is just pointless.

uhhh...what? maybe their brain chemistry had altered? are you just going to make wild guesses to support your argument of them not being retards?

lol what? depression made them act dumb...really? what made them act dumb is when their amateur sheltered asses decided to sign up for that. if you are in that situation and "oh man i'm depressed" EVER CROSS YOUR MIND you are dead. so all you are doing is supporting my claim that they would of died and not survived.

when exactly did i say the machete and firestarter are gimmicks? it's very clear i'm saying nudity is a gimmick for "shock value".

i've been out doing primitive survival/camping before. i can make my own knife, my own shelter, start a fire, set traps, etc. its not hard and i do it just for a hobby...those people claim to be guides and they are just god awful. may as well of been 2 randoms taken out of an office building with zero experience.

struggling isn't fragility. struggling is the exact opposite of being fragile...a fragile person would cave in and fail at the first obstacle...not try to overcome it.

you won't recognize a mistake if you don't learn how to do it right beforehand. if you know nothing about building a car engine are you going to recognize the mistake of a mechanic that just poured engine oil in your radiator? no and thats the point. if you can't identify a mistake then you are doing nothing but learning bad/wrong habits.

as i said above...you want to be taught about other peoples mistakes...not be taught by a person who is making mistakes.

routine is as important and thinking when you are surviving. when you learn how to start a fire the hard way your best chance of succeeding is the only thing in your mind being "keep going" because the more you think about it the more frustrated you become because your hands will be killing you.

the only place there is for creativity is once you have been taught a good way to do it to begin with. innovation is much better than invention when its a life and death situation.

so again...this show needs to drop the nonsense about them being trained survivalist, let them wear at least basic clothes if its going to let them have modern tools, stop calling them trained survivalist and giving them good scores when they do terrible.

The show is called naked and afraid, if you absolutely don't want to watch either in survival show then. The concept is random, sure.

Maybe it's the ego that is fragile. Malnutrition affects your brain chemistry, hard, if you haven't witnessed anything like it or are mentally in the sharpest 1% this is very hard to grasp. Just watched 1/20 while making food so wasn't paying attention, seems very weird that they couldn't catch or find any food but tbh I'm not sure how well would an average american handle it either.

Malnutrition might have cut their source of dopamine etc., but yea, what was this, 21 days? You can live that if you health is ok without food. If this was real situation they wouldn't have probably survived for very long.

Nudity isn't nor should be shocking, like said, this seems like random concept, so what, variation can be interesting. If they would be just naked without it would be sort of adam and eve thing or robbers steal everything and dump you somewhere.

That's pretty cool if you can do that kind of stuff very well. Maybe this is like a case for black belt martial arts fellow, it wouldn't necessary mean you would win real fights. If they are proper survival teachers then they should have probably had some first hand experience, oh well.

Didn't it seem that they got more fragile as the weeks went?

Survival and being creative is a bit more natural, primal for us that car engine. Probably you might get more out of this stuff if you know some basics, sure.

You are not getting taught by the fellows who make mistakes. You are teaching yourself while watching while watching people taking too big riskes.

Seems like your biggest fault of this is that it isn't educational. You realize it doesn't try to be educational and if you can't handle that or understand how could you enjoy that kind of then this kind of stuff isn't for you atm but it still is survival show, maybe in more literal sense.

It was weird that their ratings rose, maybe they were trained survivalists though but just not good. You can blame the show for many silly and absurd things. Giving people clothes and modern tools is great idea, maybe the duration could be even month or few then.

Probably won't be watching further than pilot but surely there must be some clever survivors to come. - We can bash the show for focusing editing on wrong things etc. but there is room in the world for dozens of different kind of survival shows. Not all for everyone necessary.