Sauron did not create the orcs. Morgoth did. Sauron was one of his lieutenants/generals. When Morgoth was taken prisoner by the other Valar, Sauron took over in power. The show still sucks though. They do not stay true to the source material. Fun fact: Sauron was a shapeshifter that turned into a werewolf.

Dude this made me laugh so hard lolol

So you aren't a Tolkien fan I guess.

Completely agree. I was hoping for excellence, both in writing, directing, editing, special effects, and last but not least, acting brilliance. We get zero of anything. I am truly disappointed. I just cannot believe they spend so much money on this, it should be 100 times better. Every episode should be a masterpiece.

Okay, i'll draw out one single positive, there is some kind of decent acting going on at times. One thing i've noticed since the beginning (s1), is that the elves, dwarves and orcs' acting is must better than the humans. I have no idea why. They just act so flat, the storyline and interacting is so boring, i can't get a hold or grip of it no matter how hard i try. It's like they jump from one thing to another and there's little to no red line. Suddenly Pharazon takes over, what happened there?? And those people in there, are those everyone representing the voices of ALL people in Numenor?? I know it was because that girl (no idea what her name is, so uninteresting and bad acting, and they never mention each others names often enough for me to remember) brings out the palantir and accuses Miriel of using it. But is the people THAT easily convinced, simply by her being accused?? Talk about loyalty. I know the war in the southlands cost her a lot of support, but what the hell! They all volunteered to go there, and a lot of them came back too! It's like, Arondir and the humans there did the hard work, the cavalry came in and just cut down the small rabble that was left?

The storyline, directing and editing is a mess of the worst degree.

And the fight scenes with the humans too, are bad. The fight in the last episode, with Valandil and Kemen (Pharazon's son turned power hungry spoilt brat), Valandil is shown to be above average in fighting prowess, now they portray him as that weak as to almost being drowned after beating up Kemen.

I don't know man. It's crazy how they can throw so much money at something, and it turn out so average or way below average.

Also, did they really think we weren't going to notice Adar's character being portrayed by someone else in season 2?? Such an important and new character, and suddenly there's someone else portraying him. Why not just get someone else to do Sauron and Gil-Galad as well, who cares.

I keep waiting and hoping for the next episode to be better, but i am just let down every time.

Only cool thing now, is the dwarves, the king going crazy with the ring, that is humorous. Showing a super old dwarf king demanding a pickaxe and hack his way through the wall was funny as all hell ^^ And demanding 50% stake in all other dwarf mines to get their rings ^^ So there are some very few glimmers of humor and this word i use with prudence: Brilliance, but those moments are few and far between. I predict the next episode, or perhaps the 7th, the balrog wakes up, and then damn, Durin III is going to meet his doom ^^ I wonder how that balrog is going to be taken down, Gandalf (the "stranger", we all know it's him) is inexperienced and nowhere near that place. They'll probably concoct some kind of ridiculous thing, a rock fall on it's head or something.

Mixed feelings for this series. Lots of things I like, but there's so much going on that the storylines keep getting in each others' ways.

It's just a question of how fanatically you celebrate Tolkien's books. I've read them (including the Silmarillion) and not all that glitters is gold.
Peter Jackson also changed a lot of things. For example, the entire ending. In the books it's catastrophic. Sauron dies about halfway through the third book. The rest is a completely sprawling story about how the hobbits liberate the Shire from Saruman (who is still alive).
A good movie adaptation can even eliminate the weaknesses of a book.

I quite like Rings of Power so far. It takes artistic liberties in certain places, but the story is gripping and exciting. Except for everything to do with the hair feet. God these fuckers are boring I guess they were going for easy Hobbit nostalgia.

In this case, I wouldn't listen to any reviews on the internet, but go and see for yourself. There are a lot of hardcore Tolkien enthusiasts online who immediately go crazy if something doesn't correspond 100% to the previous lore.
Would they have made such a fuss about Peter Jackson back then if the internet had already been so widespread?

Who?

The person I quoted.

night and day from season one.

Spoilers! Don't read this post if you haven't seen S2 E7.


Just watched episode 7, sooo friggin underwhelming. I just can't believe how they mess it up so bad. Damrod (the troll) was supposed to be so intimidating, was perhaps the most underwhelming moment in the entire season 2. I was expecting him to create absolute havoc throughout the entire battle. He was sold by Adar to be a "slayer of mountain trolls", and we saw how big they were in The Hobbit: Battle of the five armies. They are huge. Yet he dies within what seems like 1 minute of screen time. How friggin ridiculous!!!

Gil-galad (the elven king) has been underwhelming since the first episode, and was in this one as well. We didn't even see what happened to him. He said in a previous episode, he had reason to believe Sauron was the device behind "all this", when reading the letter sent from Celebrimbor. Yet still goes to Eregion and fights the orcs. Instead of maybe trying to rescue Celebrimbor beforehand or even evactuate the city silently, Galadriel knew about the hidden tunnel, guaranteed a king should know about it too. Lol i just have no words to describe it. He's supposed to be the wisest of all elves, a king, yet shows quite little of it. "A king is to be where he is needed the most". Lol, yes, at the losing end of a battle getting absolutely wrecked. I also think his acting is one of the worst in the series. I can understand his role and what he's trying to portray, the silent wise figure, but he's not doing it very well at all. And then his army just gets wrecked. Lol it's hard to grasp. And let's not forget, he was even wearing one of the three elven rings, that should make him at least as powerful as Durin IV was shown to be off screen, just wrecking a small group of dwarves. He should have been a huge opposing figure on the battlefield. Yet agian, zero special effects, nothing. Again, Battle of the five armies comes to mind, and how well Thranduil was portrayed, that was masterclass acting. Doesn't even reach him to the ankles.

The elves had a huge army of knights. What happened to all of those?? I know Adar said he had more than one "legion" of orcs, but we saw very little of that battle. Did really all those knights just die? That's pretty weak! And knights are supposed to be a symbol of strength, and they just disappeared. How to leave a hollow feeling in your audience!

And then they decided to have Arondir killed, the biggest hero since the S1E1. It would be the same as having Legolas killed in Lotr: Two towers, at the battle of helm's deep. Absolutely pathetic. Only tiny thread of hope of him surviving, is if Adar by some strange act of fate would heal him back to life since he now got Galadriel's ring, which we saw earlier had the power to resurrect. So that's one point worth noting, maybe he will resurrect his whole army too. Like the necromancer in diablo 2, dark wizardry. Could be a scene for some cool special effects, but those are also extremely superiorly lacking in the series. I've seen all the Star Trek movies, and even as shitty special effects there are in those, there are more in them than there are in this series. Just crazy how many opportunities they miss to create something cool and really memorable. I could probably do better creative directing myself.