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Nov 9 2012 05:33pm
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All drooling aside this piece is being confused by non WD players and those who are not familiar with the build. The zombie dog build has limitations, there is no benefit from getting more than 34 second cd which is more than readily available through every other piece. ZD cooldown can be completely avoided on the ammy to make the build perfect. The ammy is nice but consider this a tip worth 2 billion gold.

Here are just a few options. While this is a great item, you can get a ~9+ crit, 90+ crit damage, 250+ int amulet on the gold ah for 500-1000m. Yes its rare but those stats or pretty close to it and show up daily. You don't need more than 88 int to handily beat this mara.

Even the 5+ pages of 8.5+ crit 60+ cd tal rasha amulets matched with the pieces below will handily beat this due to the % bonuses. They all come with over 200 int as well, some in excess of 300 int and or + dmg. All for under 500m btw.

By simply grabbing the 19-20 cd reduction offhand (must have or the entire build falls apart), 8-9 head piece, a 5-6 ring you will have saved yourself a boat load of money on this. All you need is 34 second reduction total out of a possible 52 second reduction available on all slots for this specific build and you can get a better ammy. There is no benefit in a simple 8 reduction of zombie dogs just for the sake of it otherwise, its a non essential skill that does not need to be refreshed when not used for that purpose.

tldr: Don't be blinded by the zd cooldown, there are other ways to get that and an elite amy all for cheaper than the bids thrown around already here. Thinking outside the box will net you more dps than a mara ammy setup, for far cheaper.

This amulet is no where in the same universe as another classes best in slot mara with an affix that has no limitation or even the WD version with Acid Cloud on crit. Those would be worth your reaction to this since they have no cap limitations.

The math above should effectively tell you that this ammy is valued at 500m if you are using your head due to the builds limitations.

This post was edited by PHDWDoctor on Nov 9 2012 06:10pm
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Nov 9 2012 07:16pm
PHDWDoctor, wtf are you talking about? Are you on crack?

I am assuming you are one of the people trying to buy this, and you are trying to talk it down so you can get it for a better price. Especially since this is your very first post, and you just HAD to make an account to talk about how "bad" the perfect rolled maras with WD dogs on it is.

Can you get a 150-200 int with 9% CC and 90% CD dmg ammy on the AH for 500 mil or so? Yeah, you can. That is about what they are worth. 250 int? Maybe if someone doesn't know the price and put one up for such a low price, but it would sell almost instantly. In fact, there are absolutely 0 9%+ CC, 90%+ CD, 250 int ammies on the AH. There is a 237 int one for 2 bil though.

Is that the point of this item? Nope. This is an all around godly item. It not only had 10% CC and 100% CD, which is worth a mint itself when combined with a main stat of any kind (there are only two on the AH with int, one for 975 mil with 130 int and 30 phys res, and one for 1.9 bil with 90 int 230ish vit some arcane res and some magic find), but it has all resist as well (I've NEVER saw an ammy with 10% CC, 100% CD, a main stat, AND all resist).

Then what else does it have? On top of that is has LOH! Is LOH the best extra stat for it? Maybe not, but LOH is still a great roll, and on top of the other things that EVEN WITHOUT LOH would make it the best int ammy on the market, it has it.

Then what else? Jesus christ, the max amount of reduced dogs you can get. Can you hit 0 second dogs without it on your amulet? Sure you can! But, if you have it on your amulet, you can get a different skill bonus, or higher \ more stats on another piece, that previously would have REQUIRED reduced time on dogs.

How long have you even played Diablo? Do you know what the difference in price for a perfect anni and an anni that was 1 point off of perfect was in D2? The perfect was worth a few times the imperfect. Same with most of the runewords. Even when the difference got to such an extreme that the change was negligible, perfect rolls still push the price up, because there just cannot be better for that stat in that slot.

People who buy an item such as this are not worried about saving gold so they can spend 500 mil on an ammy that is "almost as good" (when the ammies you were talking about aren't even in the same solar system as this thing). They don't nickle and dime their stuff to get the maxes on other items so they can save money in other spots. They are building their characters to be the absolute best. I guarantee you that whoever buys this ammy will be a WD in the top 5-10 at least on Diablo Progress. They will not be settling for "good enough". They will be one of the people fighting to be the BEST.

Oh, and if you are a ZD WD with this ammy, that means you can avoid ZD on your helm and instead get a 6% CC Mempo :P

Edit:

Really man? Following the poor kid from the bnet forums to spew this hate here? You aren't even a ZD build WD. You have no room to speak, and you do not know what you are talking about. Get a life.

Edit 2:

Actually, loaded the wrong profile. You are using an empty account on the bnet forums. Grow some balls.

This post was edited by Large_Intestine on Nov 9 2012 07:22pm
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Nov 9 2012 07:19pm
Quote (PHDWDoctor @ Nov 10 2012 06:50am)
All drooling aside this piece is being confused by non WD players and those who are not familiar with the build. The zombie dog build has limitations, there is no benefit from getting more than 34 second cd which is more than readily available through every other piece. ZD cooldown can be completely avoided on the ammy to make the build perfect. The ammy is nice but consider this a tip worth 2 billion gold.

Here are just a few options. While this is a great item, you can get a ~9+ crit, 90+ crit damage, 250+ int amulet on the gold ah for 500-1000m.  Yes its rare but those stats or pretty close to it and show up daily. You don't need more than 88 int to handily beat this mara.

Even the 5+ pages of 8.5+ crit 60+ cd tal rasha amulets matched with the pieces below will handily beat this due to the % bonuses.  They all come with over 200 int as well, some in excess of 300 int and or + dmg. All for under 500m btw.

By simply grabbing the 19-20 cd reduction offhand (must have or the entire build falls apart), 8-9 head piece, a 5-6 ring you will have saved yourself a boat load of money on this. All you need is 34 second reduction total out of a possible 52 second reduction available on all slots for this specific build and you can get a better ammy. There is no benefit in a simple 8 reduction of zombie dogs just for the sake of it otherwise, its a non essential skill that does not need to be refreshed when not used for that purpose.

tldr: Don't be blinded by the zd cooldown, there are other ways to get that and an elite amy all for cheaper than the bids thrown around already here. Thinking outside the box will net you more dps than a mara ammy setup, for far cheaper.

This amulet is no where in the same universe as another classes best in slot mara with an affix that has no limitation or even the WD version with Acid Cloud on crit. Those would be worth your reaction to this since they have no cap limitations.

The math above should effectively tell you that this ammy is valued at 500m if you are using your head due to the builds limitations.


are u nagafen ? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004406379?page=4#65
are u the person that message me to keep informing you the higest bid?
why creat 4 id to just keep lowballing me?, and yet u keep an eye of this tread :(
your language style is really abvious lol
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Nov 9 2012 07:45pm
Quote (koromon001 @ Nov 9 2012 05:19pm)
are u nagafen ? [URL=http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004406379?page=4#65]http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004406379?page=4#65[/URL]
are u the person that message me to keep informing you the higest bid?
why creat 4 id to just keep lowballing me?, and yet u keep an eye of this tread :(
your language style is  really abvious lol


Nobody is low balling you and i have never messaged you, like i stated i have no clue why battle.net is not displaying my profile. Whatever the market pays that great. But you are not being truthful about the facts surrounding the build because you as a seller have no clue.

Large_intestine: Load up your preferred dmg analysis tool and run the numbers, those other ammys will not get you close enough, they will blow the dps out of the water on this. I point about a 250 int, 10 cc, 100 cd was the extreme top end and yes they do appear once a day. But you only need 88 int to top this and like you saw, there are a ton of those for 100-500 million.

u can run 6 crit helm 9 zd and a ring, or both rings, all options still forced to use a homonculus and still run your mempo with a double ring option you fool. All of which will net you more dps with a Tal Rasha amulet or comparable rare. And you hit it on the head, the loh is irrelevant to this build - you are already healing over 24000.

I am spreading the facts, thank me or don't its your loss to decide

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Nobody is low balling you. Whatever the market pays that great. But you are not being truthful about the facts surrounding the build because you as a seller have no clue.

Large_intestine: Load up your preferred dmg analysis tool and run the numbers, those other ammys will not get you close enough, they will blow the dps out of the water on this. I point about a 250 int, 10 cc, 100 cd was the extreme top end and yes they do appear once a day. But you only need 88 int to top this and like you saw, there are a ton of those for 100-500 million.

u can run 6 crit helm 9 zd  and a ring, or both rings, all options still forced to use a homonculus and still run your mempo with a double ring option you fool. All of which will net you more dps with a Tal Rasha amulet or comparable rare. And you hit it on the head, the loh is irrelevant to this build - you are already healing over 24000.

I am spreading the facts, thank me or don't its your loss to decide


Sounds like youre just jealous you will never own this gg ammy
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Nov 9 2012 07:51pm
Quote (PurpSkurp @ Nov 9 2012 05:49pm)
Sounds like youre just jealous you will never own this gg ammy


Good response, now tell us how much of your money you are wasting on this. Lets get it all out there for the sake of transparency so those in the know could have a good laugh, we have not seen a single legitimate bid.
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Nov 9 2012 07:53pm
Quote (PHDWDoctor @ Nov 9 2012 07:51pm)
i really want this amulet but im pretentious as hell


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Nov 9 2012 07:54pm
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lol slam


10/10 for truth
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Nov 9 2012 08:03pm
inb4 MASS ESSAY
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