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Feb 17 2016 10:29pm
Budget: $3,000
Current possible options: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JPZdpg
  • More specific use (what games, what programs): Sony Vegas Pro, Photoshop, World of Warcraft, and other games/video editing.
  • Planned time until purchase: Within the next 2 weeks.
  • Do you need an Operating System?: Yes, preferably windows 10.
  • Do you have any specific preferred components?: Being just that, a preference not mandatory, but really looking into the 5820k for the 6 cores.
  • Do you need a sound or wireless card?: Will need a wireless card for sure. As far as a sound card as long as I have integrated sound then I will be fine. Not an audiophile by any means so not super important.
  • Do you want stock cooling or do you plan on overclocking?: If budget permits then I would really like to try my hand at a custom water loop. I will be overclocking and shooting for around 4.6-4.7 on the CPU if possible. If my budget doesnt allow it then I wont be upset if I have to stick with an air cooler or AIO closed loop.
  • Do you need a monitor? mouse? keyboard?: I will need Monitors, prefer duals if not triples, and really looking into at least a 28-30". If the monitors don't have built in speakers then an external speaker setup will be needed.
  • Zip code/location? (Shipping costs): St. Louis, Mo.
  • Build theme: I have always been a fan of the "Storm Trooper" look (Nice even mix of black and white). I am looking to stick strictly with black and white with the only colors I would possibly consider would a very minimal amount of Royal blue for like say the Custom loop adapters (if budget permits custom loop). I would also like to note that I am wanted a very quite, low maintenance build if at all possible. I would like it to be very stream lined and clean looking with possibly a fan controller of some sort if it blends well with the theme, if not then it doesnt hurt me to skip it.


Thanks for all the help!

This post was edited by CynicZ on Feb 17 2016 10:51pm
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Hm... where to start. First of all your component choice is quite good but i dont see why you would take 2 ssd's. Also 1TB seems like nothing if you do video editing. Thats like 12 Hours of 1080p MPEG2 video. Also your storage solution offers no redundancy.
Overclocking to 4.6/4.7 if you have one of the super lucky sunday CPU's. 4.4 seems a little more resonable. Dont push the overclock to the limit. it is not worth the risk of data loss/ data corruption.
Forget about the custom loop. It is expensive and not worth it, since the r9 390 does not need to be water cooled. Get a all in one water cooler for your cpu and your fine.
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Feb 18 2016 06:51am
Quote (maulepan @ Feb 18 2016 05:35am)
Hm... where to start. First of all your component choice is quite good but i dont see why you would take 2 ssd's. Also 1TB seems like nothing if you do video editing. Thats like 12 Hours of 1080p MPEG2 video. Also your storage solution offers no redundancy.
Overclocking to 4.6/4.7 if you have one of the super lucky sunday CPU's. 4.4 seems a little more resonable. Dont push the overclock to the limit. it is not worth the risk of data loss/ data corruption.
Forget about the custom loop. It is expensive and not worth it, since the r9 390 does not need to be water cooled. Get a all in one water cooler for your cpu and your fine.


Stop misinforming people.

@ OP 4.6 is quite normal for that chip.

Change your boot drive to a 256 GB you'll appreciate it .

If it's within your budget replace the gpu with a 390x or Fury.

Also if you're willing to spend the money on a custom loop then the AMD cards benefit a lot from being put under water.

I would change your build but I'm on my way to work.
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Feb 18 2016 06:57am
Quote (maulepan @ Feb 18 2016 04:35am)
Hm... where to start. First of all your component choice is quite good but i dont see why you would take 2 ssd's. Also 1TB seems like nothing if you do video editing. Thats like 12 Hours of 1080p MPEG2 video. Also your storage solution offers no redundancy.
Overclocking to 4.6/4.7 if you have one of the super lucky sunday CPU's. 4.4 seems a little more resonable. Dont push the overclock to the limit. it is not worth the risk of data loss/ data corruption.
Forget about the custom loop. It is expensive and not worth it, since the r9 390 does not need to be water cooled. Get a all in one water cooler for your cpu and your fine.


2 ssd is mentioned in the first post. I can for example instead of rendering one video with 40%cpu and ram usage, I can render a video to both ssd and say have 80% usage and make full use of double the write speed since I have 2 separate drives. (correct me if I'm wrong).
As for storage I chose 1tb simply because I have over 200Tb of external storage lol. I save everything to an external hard drive once done.
As for over locking I'm not super super new to overclocking. Microcenter has the 14 day no questions cpu return so I planned on returning it until I got a good cpu which can stably run 4.6 then I always back it down a hair. So if I can run 4.7 for 12-24 hours stable and safely I'll drop it to 4.6 and roll with that. If I can run 4.6 I'll drop it to 4.5 etc.

However still looking for someone to throw me some good suggestions on changing and/or completing the build within the budget.



Quote (Deny @ Feb 18 2016 06:51am)
Stop misinforming people.

@ OP 4.6 is quite normal for that chip.

Change your boot drive to a 256 GB you'll appreciate it .

If it's within your budget replace the gpu with a 390x or Fury.

Also if you're willing to spend the money on a custom loop then the AMD cards benefit a lot from being put under water.

I would change your build but I'm on my way to work.


As for speeds upon search overclocking forums I've seen almost 95% of the people achieve 4.5 to 4.6 reliably so I figured it wasn't a far stretch.

Why do you say change the boot drive to 256? Should I just run 2x 256 and use one for boot and one for all my programs and forget the extra/empty drive for dual rendering?

Why do you suggest the 390x or fury over the one I chose? Not saying your wrong, however from all the benchmarks and such the fury was only like 5% faster. I could very well be missing something but that's why I'm here, to learn, haha.

My main desires within the gpu is to be able to preform well running dual or triple high res, high quality monitors. Also matching the same bit as the monitors (so if I get an 8 bit monitor making sure the gpu can use the monitor at its full potential). I have no problem changing the parts I've currently chosen so whenever you get a chance if you don't mind throw a quick build up :p would be greatly appreciated.

This post was edited by CynicZ on Feb 18 2016 07:03am
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4LKQTW

Updated and left enough for a loop.

390X is a little better and will have no issues with your needs. Also using the 512 to install rendering program and store videos is more practical. I don't like boot drives under 256. It's a preference. Also 1000W may seem enough but go a little bigger for some headroom.

This post was edited by Deny on Feb 18 2016 07:18am
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Quote (Deny @ Feb 18 2016 07:12am)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4LKQTW

Updated and left enough for a loop.

390X is a little better and will have no issues with your needs. Also using the 512 to install rendering program and store videos is more practical. I don't like boot drives under 256. It's a preference. Also 1000W may seem enough but go a little bigger for some headroom.


Neither ssd will be used to store videos so I figured I wouldn't need that much ssd space. I'll def look into other ssd options.
I would like to say I greatly appreciate your input, only see one issue though. With the build you linked running 2300, this leaves me 700$ to buy a custom loop or store bought cooler, which is fine. The main concern is I can't see myself grabbing 2-3 monitor with the little that's left. From me looking a good monitor is like 300-500 each :s

I do once again appreciate your input brother. I will def look into swapping for the 390x and upgrading the psu and such as per your recommendations.

This post was edited by CynicZ on Feb 18 2016 07:39am
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Feb 18 2016 07:48am
Quote (CynicZ @ Feb 18 2016 01:57pm)
2 ssd is mentioned in the first post. I can for example instead of rendering one video with 40%cpu and ram usage, I can render a video to both ssd and say have 80% usage and make full use of double the write speed since I have 2 separate drives. (correct me if I'm wrong).

When you render a video you will always use 100% of your CPU, since it is a CPU intense task. A SSD writes about 450+ MB per second. Thats way more then any CPU can render. Also if you want to double the speed of your SSD then you have to configure them as a RAID 0. For that you need the same sized SSD. a 128gb and a 512gb RAID 0 will result in a 256gb RAID as it is resticted to the capacity of the smallest ssd. Also the gain in write and read speed usually does not justify the increased chance of disk failure.
Simply use one larger SSD for your OS, all your programms and your work in progress files.

Quote (CynicZ @ Feb 18 2016 01:57pm)
As for over locking I'm not super super new to overclocking. Microcenter has the 14 day no questions cpu return so I planned on returning it until I got a good cpu which can stably run 4.6 then I always back it down a hair. So if I can run 4.7 for 12-24 hours stable and safely I'll drop it to 4.6 and roll with that. If I can run 4.6 I'll drop it to 4.5 etc.

That sounds like a good plan.

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Feb 18 2016 07:53am
Quote (maulepan @ Feb 18 2016 07:48am)
When you render a video you will always use 100% of your CPU, since it is a CPU intense task. A SSD writes about 450+ MB per second. Thats way more then any CPU can render. Also if you want to double the speed of your SSD then you have to configure them as a RAID 0. For that you need the same sized SSD. a 128gb and a 512gb RAID 0 will result in a 256gb RAID as it is resticted to the capacity of the smallest ssd. Also the gain in write and read speed usually does not justify the increased chance of disk failure.
Simply use one larger SSD for your OS, all your programms and your work in progress files.


That sounds like a good plan.


Thank you for more informative information. So I assume it would be best to just get a single 500gb ssd and use that for OS and programs?
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Feb 18 2016 07:54am
You're looking at $450 minimum for a custom loop on one CPU and one GPU. Then probably at least another $550 for 3x 28" IPS monitors - more if you want higher quality monitors or 1440p.
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Quote (CynicZ @ Feb 18 2016 02:53pm)
So I assume it would be best to just get a single 500gb ssd and use that for OS and programs?

yes.

This post was edited by maulepan on Feb 18 2016 07:55am
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