Ok, i dont want to wall of text you, but let me be clear that im only building this because its cheaper and im scared of spending lots of money and that having cheap parts fail on me, not because i have some sort of can-do, masochist personality - im not happy i have to go to all this trouble.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227507R#top

this product got nothing but great reviews, even in out of the box condition.

thats what i was thinking about getting, it was 519$, as you can see its sold out now cause i dont get paid till the 12th.

what i like about prebuilt is they have all the parts they need and they get shipped in a timely manner, and theres no rebate scams, they even throw in a mouse and a keyboard....


i have to build a pc, all it really needs to do is run league, sc2, maybe stream league a bit, and play the newer blizzard games coming out like overwatch on say medium graphics(that said, the longer it lasts and the more it can run the better - im looking for value here, not looking to set any records for longest epeen).

I dont want to spend over 700$, because the one i was looking was entirely built and sold for 519..... so if you guys cant do better then ill just wait around on newegg for another deal(if what your considering is a bit more expensive but offers value, please explain why, otherwise ill just assume you cant do basic math). I also need to buy a new monitor because this monitor will not work with the newer video cards, though i can get that a bit later, and thats not included in the price.


i was hoping one of you could put together a 500$ gaming pc on partpicker, then add the stuff that i actually need and reflect a more appropriate price, because i know you guys will leave out important stuff like the OS, case fans, the optical drive, the ethernet card so i can get online, it needs the usb ports so i can plug in my mouse, all the things that are necessary for me to have a computer that wont break in 15 minutes... that stuff is never included in anyones partpicker. I really dont want to spend a week waiting for parts, only to find out im missing a key component - plz dont do that to me.

plz help if you guys can do better than that ibuypower pc i would be eternally grateful. If its possible to avoid some of that rebate mess, that would be a big bonus.


I have some things on my current pc, but im afraid things wont fit, and these fans etc are very old. Though i assume the ethernet card/sound card/hd/case/psu are still fine, so i mayb e able to shave some off the price once i find out exactly what kind of materiels i can scavenge from this one.

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 11:08am

First of all ethernet cards, case fans and most of this stuff is pre-installed when you buy a main board or a case. And why would you need a new OS. You have a computer now right? You can just use your current win7 / win8 key and aktivate win 10 with it. No problems at all with that.
Also please post in detail what current hardware you use.

But for 519$ it was a good deal (considering all the parts are still working and in good shape, which i highly doubt). Prozessor and Grafics card alone cost 300. Getting everything like main board, case, PSU, OS, Hard drive, Ram within the remaining budget is almost impossible. Ofcourse iBuypower uses very low quality parts, but it almost impossible to compete performance wise, so i cant really recommend you any build as you would either have ti spend more money or accept flower prozessors.

This post was edited by maulepan on Feb 2 2016 11:18am

thought id fill this out beore anyone asked.

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 11:20am

some 20ish reviews say your wrong but i dont want to quibble.




I wasnt aware of that, but id like to know more about it, because when i click on things like ATX case blah blah, it doesnt have a picture or even words with associated stuff, i dont know if i have to look up, USB CABLES plug into my computer etc etc, i just need everything that comes to fit together properly.



thats kind of what i figured, for the same price can you even come close though? I dont know much about this stuff obviously, so when i see 3.5ghz 8 core processor, i just assume its better than 2.8ghz quad core, though that may not be the case.



This is the kind of comment that scares people who are considering doing this, i dont want to spend 700$, wait a week and then have "most of the stuff" show up at my door... i want everything i need.



I hope you guys know what im after, i dont need next level performance, but id like to get my moneys worth though, and if your argument is that ibuypower parts are crappy, well please provide some kind evidence at least. Thing is, that computer was probably twice what i need anyway, so if you cant do more for less, id understand, though it seems silly to build it part by part for no discount at all.



This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 11:33am

Fans are mostly installed on the case. the Spec read like this:
"2x USB 3.0, 1x Headphone, 1x Mic Front Ports, Internal Bay: 2x 3.5", 2x 2.5" 1 x 200mm fan, 2 x 80mm turbo fans (optinoal)" - this means there is a big 200mm fan already installed in the case, and there are mounting options for two additional 80mm fans that DONT come with the case. All the front ports are connected with one big plug to the main board.

But yes i know. Pcpartpicker does not list all the spec's. I always google the part and get the specs form the manufactures website.


You are right. Ghz and core count do not say much. The best way to compare CPU'S is by the cinebench single and multi core benchmark.
And no. with 519$ we cant even come close. This is a pc that was build with parts that were rejected after the manufactuing prozess because it did not meet the quality standarts. We cant compete with that price wise.


If you post your current setup, we can see what can be salvaged and show you what you can get for 550 or 700$.

http://www.cnet.com/products/gateway-gx7022e-media-center-pentium-d-830-3-ghz-2-gb-320-gb/specs/

thats the case i have, along with all those parts, but it was customized a bit, so it has a soundcard, its old though, SDBLASTER or something idk SoundBlaster Live! 24bit sound card, it has whatever ethernet card came with, it has all the little usb cables that connect to the case, 2 case fans, one in the front the other in the back, however the one in the front is sort of located in an odd way like, it has a plastic sort of thing that makes sure the air first flows thru the cpu heatsink. The PSU died a year or two ago and i replaced it with a 60$ one from staples, I assume its 400w or the same power as the one that came with it because my pc is working and i took the broken one when i bought the new one, but i cant remember for certain and i cant see any stickers on or anything on the back or when i open the case.


/e btw thanks for all the help. Im obviously goign to keep an eye on that ibuy one in case they restock it between the 12th and whenenver i make my decision, but if you guys can come up with something close enough id prefer to buy parts that are reliable and have good reviews. Again, i dont need a hubble supercomputer, i just need to run league, hopefully well enough that i dont have to turn down all the graphics - it is a pretty old game that isnt all that graphics intensive after all.

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 12:20pm

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mDGMLk

this is one of the lists i like alot - its sort of in my price range the right kind of value for performance ratio.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Fq4vTW

this is basically what i came up with myself after looking at that other list. Mine is missing the case or tower or whatever, though from looking at his list it looks as if you can get the tower and psu together which is nice if theyre good quality. Also, I have 2 or 3 external harddrives as it is, so theres no need for a TB hdd, but the prices here vary alot, and i dont see much savings in getting less harddrive space, however there are some pretty cheap SSD's, but ive never use an ssd at all, so im not sure how big an improvement it is, or if its worth it to pay some extra money and get one, my current pc uses all of 50 of 300 gigs. If theyre prone to break then id rather not bother with something like that tho.

Also i need info on what stuff does not come with that, like i dont see the usb cables thing, or the ethernet card for getting online, idk if i need to buy extra case fans or if the mobo does not have onboard sound or whatnot, but im getting somewhere now. The graphics card and processor are not quite as good as in the ibuy model but i think theyre fit to run csgo, league and hopefully overwatch, at least from what ive read about the 750 ti, idk much about the processor and the articles about them mostly just confuse me with regards to gaming.

/e also, if for the price i cant beat the performance of that pre built one, then id at least like to know that the things theyre cutting corners on, im not. If im not gonna get as nice a GPU and CPU as they offer, id like to at least know that my PSU/RAM is safer or whatever, so any info on that would be appreciated as well.

Plz lmk ur guys thoughts on this

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 01:37pm

Well both computer will most likely do the job, but the cpu is really not that great. enough for these low requirement games, but dont expact games like fallout 4 to run on these cpu's well. With CPU's you mostly pay for what you get. Good ones simply start at 130$.
The information about the ethernet can be found in the specifications of your main board:
"ONBOARD ETHERNET
1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps"

You main board supplies 4x usb 3.0 at 5 Gbps. Additionally the Rosewill case comes with 2x usb 3.0 in the front and has one 90mm fan mounted in the back, but does not seem to have any mounting options for additional fans.

Also i would stay far away form cheap cases with power supply. A good power supply with 500 Watt costs at least 50$. A case is mostly also around 50$. When you can get both for 49.99 then quality will be shit. These power supplies mostly cant deliver the power that the label say's and the residual ripple (not sure if thats the right word... its my second language) mostly exceeds the permissible ATX spectrum.

And we are not cutting corners anywhere. We use the same ram, the same cases, the same drives as the pre-built one. The only difference is that we have to buy regulary ones, whereas IBuyPower was using rejects from the manufacturer.
Cases that have been dropped, now have a dent and could not be sold anymore were used for special deals like the one you posted.

This post was edited by maulepan on Feb 2 2016 01:50pm

So in your honest opinion is it better to just wait for another deal like that or to build one? Keep in mind im not playing crazy games, but I mean if for 500-600$ i can run something like bf4 on medium or high without it looking horrible i might buy bf4 lol.. idk

I was just checking the processor stuff, and it seems that amd lies about what theyre selling because they include "logical cores" or something idk. However, it seems that very few games take lots of processor power especially the ones i play, I dont plan to do any video editing, or anything like that, i need a procssor that wont bottleneck the 750 ti with regards to most games out right now, if that makes sense.

That said, if you could put together a pcpartickerlist that in your opinion gives the best value, with all the parts i NEED to have a working pc, that includes the 750ti, for < 550, I would appreciate it.


/e

i think maybe the best way to do it is to find good products that are necessary first and work backwards to the processor. I mean i know i want the 750 ti, its a solid card in reviews and its good enough for anything i will do, that said i need a power supply, i have cd drives already if they will fit, i need either an ssd or regular harddrive, i need the case and fans so i dont fry anything, and then the 750 ti, and whatever that totals, i can figure out what cpu/mobo I want at that point. I know this is not how most people do it but, i can either decide to spend more money, or find out if it even matters for someone like me - i dont know if i really require a 200$ processor, but depending on the price points and whatnot hopefully one of u can tell me what the best deal is

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 02:28pm

Your build will work. No doubting that. Also battlefield 4 is a highly optimised game. It even runs on my laptop.
For 522 you could get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/z2bf3C

The case comes with 2 fan's so you dont need to worry about that.

I recommend buying a windows 7 license somewhere else online. Thats only like 20$ and you can activate win 10 with any win7 license. Since i live in germany i dont know what trusted software reseller are in your country.

This post was edited by maulepan on Feb 2 2016 02:30pm