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Aug 11 2015 11:17pm
Hey all,

fairly new in that region so dont be to hard with me pls!
iam thinking bout upgrading my pc and iam not sure where to start

figured i need more ram a better graphic card and maybe a new mainboard / processor? feels all bit slow / clunky novadays on games/browsing

sitting on 4gb ram intel i3 cpu 2.93 ghz and a ati radeon 5700 hd
windows 7 ultimate.


wondering first of all if its even possible to make the investment of upgrading my pc is worth it or if i should make something from scratch´

if u need any other infos let me know, not sure tried to copy paste diddnt rly workd lol, :X

greetings! enjoy ur day and thanks for all input even the negative :D

my budget is basicly my fg and some saved up money sadly not alot :O! 200 euro~


opic Title: Need a Desktop PC built
Description: Gaming, Photoshop/CAD, Video Editing, etc. and Budget
Budget: fg + 200 euro~
More specific use (what games, what programs): mmo's/arpgs/sc2
Planned time until purchase: 2~ month
Do you need an Operating System?: no
Do you have any specific preferred components?:nop
Do you need a sound or wireless card?:nop
Do you want stock cooling or do you plan on overclocking?:idc/no
Do you need a monitor? mouse? keyboard?:no
Zip code/location? (Shipping costs):germany

This post was edited by DalaiLama on Aug 11 2015 11:24pm
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Aug 12 2015 01:24am
get more euros!
you can absolutely upgrade, but even with that setup you shouldnt have issues doing the basics. Maybe a nice clean windows install will help clear that up :D

Which i3 is it?
unless its the most recent [i3-4xxx] youd have to buy something used to upgrade the processor, so you would in fact need a new mainboard + processor to upgrade that.

However i think that if you started off with somthing like these youd be okay
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TkJCZL
you can upgrade your processor a bit later since it will be a more costly upgrade.
with a limited budget the video card will boost your games the most and the ram should sorely help you with editing and rendering :)
lmk if u cant buy from amazon uk, its not usual that we get european buyers so im not always sure!
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Quote (Rapture @ Aug 12 2015 09:24am)
get more euros!
you can absolutely upgrade, but even with that setup you shouldnt have issues doing the basics. Maybe a nice clean windows install will help clear that up :D

Which i3 is it?
unless its the most recent [i3-4xxx] youd have to buy something used to upgrade the processor, so you would in fact need a new mainboard + processor to upgrade that.

However i think that if you started off with somthing like these youd be okay
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TkJCZL
you can upgrade your processor a bit later since it will be a more costly upgrade.
with a limited budget the video card will boost your games the most and the ram should sorely help you with editing and rendering :)
lmk if u cant buy from amazon uk, its not usual that we get european buyers so im not always sure!


Hey thanks for ur answer and yea i figured my budget is rly low and that i need a new mainbord / processor
its def a old i3 bought the pc like 6-8 years ago i think did 2-3 reinstalls,
and yea basics are ok, a clean windows install would def help i think

ill look into that appreciate it ty!
if u need any specific infos bout my pc let me know!
also is it hard for example to build those 2 parts u listed in my pc? never rly build a pc myself neither i got any idea

would be wise to do some research, also curious if their even usable in my pc like if i have extra ram slots for example if that is even a thing
thanks ill do some research!

ps, bout my budget i thought i can buy maybe one bigger part with fg from the donor forum, but sadly iam not rly sure wich is affordable or compatible on my pc in terms of mainboard/processor/graphic card with the rest of the pc
like http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72869359&f=233 for example the gtx

This post was edited by DalaiLama on Aug 12 2015 10:04am
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Aug 12 2015 08:16pm

:)

1. Upgrading the graphics and ram are probably the two simplest things in a PC.
- For ram: Plug them in your Mobo in the proper order and you're all set. No more work needed.

-For gpu, you'd uninstall your current drivers, unplug the current gpu, plug in new one, then install new drivers. will also be helpful to download the drivers before switching as they usually take at least a few minutes to download. Then you're done!

2. GPU's dont really require anything of a motherboard to be compatible, as long as it has a proper slot, it should work just fine.

3. It would help if we knew your motherboard, then we can be sure what I3 you are using and if it accepts DDR3 ram. You can look it up by downloading a free program called speccy.
https://www.piriform.com/speccy
It will show all your PC information :)

You can then just post a s/s.

4. You should have enough RAM slots! as long as you have 4 slots you should be able to hold the 2 sticks + your current stick(s). If not you can always remove some old ram to replace it, in the worst of scenarios.

5. The 570 is compatible, but is pretty old. I don't know that I'd buy something that old, unless you really had to. The 280 i posted for example, is also nearly double the power of the 570.
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Aug 12 2015 11:14pm
thanks first of all, very kind of you appreciate ur answer
seems indeed doable expected it being mutch worse in terms of doing it myself, i guess thats the easy parts

http://www.directupload.net/[/URL]

wasnt sure wich part u needed but i assume the summary should give us some info for now, i gladly picture any other parts if any1 needs to know something more specific.
iam not sure how mutch ram slots i have, but as u said worse case i need to upgrade one i guess, is it listed in that prog somewhere? lookd at ram but wasnt sure if those where ment to be used slots or overall slots

and bout the graphic card yea i assumed that it might be to old and roughly equal or only lil better to my current, i guess i keep looking on the web
thx again sir!
enjoy ur day.

ps: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72895103&f=233&o=0
if u dont mind could u maybe give me a range of what graphic cards compatible maybe and decent ? would like to keep it for a year-2 before i upgrade at least if thats manageable with my budget
thanks!
i assume those newer cards wouldnt work with my mainboard saw a gforce970 for sale for roughly my fg but doubt thats compatible with my setup

This post was edited by DalaiLama on Aug 12 2015 11:23pm
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Aug 13 2015 01:41am
The Picture is perfect :) Tells us all we need.
1. you can simply look inside your PC and see your ram slots. You should see 2 sticks sitting somewhere near your CPU. If you see 2 sticks and 4 slots, then you are good.

2. All graphics cards are going to be compatible with your board. The 970 would be compatible but its such a strong card your CPU would likely cause a bottleneck until you upgraded.
- A bottleneck happens because: A pc can only run as fast as its slowest part. All this means is that your performance will be limited by your cpu, so you wouldnt be able to utilize all the power of the 970 until you upgrade.
Again not a bad thing, it just means that purchasing a weaker GPU would give you the same FPS, at least until you reached a GPU that wasn't more powerful than your CPU.

3. Use this tool to compare GPU performance. I've currently selected a 5770 and the R9 280 I suggested. As you can see, huge performance gap. You can use it to compare these to almost any card. [some cards are missing]
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1078?vs=1332


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Aug 13 2015 02:54am
very interresting site, will play around lil bit with it
rly hope i can buy a mainboard or graphic card on donor forum and save some cash to maybe get another important part vs the budget i saved up


so would u recommend upgrading graphic card / ram or am i missing anything else?

thanks again for ur patience and help much appreciated.

googled some pics and i got 3 black looking slots and 1 blue not sure actually
that topic i posted with that 770 wouldnt that fit quite nicely? seems like its quite good lookd it up with that site u linkd me and seemd pretty good
told myself to take some time to check all offers and get the most out of my budget

This post was edited by DalaiLama on Aug 13 2015 03:05am
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Quote (DalaiLama @ Aug 13 2015 04:54am)
very interresting site, will play around lil bit with it
rly hope i can buy a mainboard or graphic card on donor forum and save some cash to maybe get another important part vs the budget i saved up


so would u recommend upgrading graphic card / ram or am i missing anything else?

thanks again for ur patience and help much appreciated.

googled some pics and i got 3 black looking slots and 1 blue not sure actually
that topic i posted with that 770 wouldnt that fit quite nicely? seems like its quite good lookd it up with that site u linkd me and seemd pretty good
told myself to take some time to check all offers and get the most out of my budget


Sorry I was being lazy. XD
I googled your board, you have 4 slots. 2 black and 2 blue.
So you would be good if you added more ram.

The ram is only useful for video editing. It won't really help you out in most games. So if you want to save the money, I might hold off on it.
You can also do this configuration
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MhnvD3

It should fit your budget, though IDK if theres taxes or shipping fees on it. This will actually be a very good combo, I use these in builds frequently, and they do a good job at giving me Ultra settings on most games at 1080p. On a game like the witcher 3, I can go medium settings 45+ FPS, otherwise I can play it on a mix of ultra and high and get acceptable frame rates [all with 4gb of ram]
So i'd definitely consider that with your budget, as you can always buy a 4gb stick of ram a month or two down the road.
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Aug 13 2015 03:51pm
hey great thx for the research, ill def look into those parts u recommended me

i noticd that my ram is oftentimes full probably due my pc quite loverloaded with crap, advanced system care shows me often red bar at ram, so maybe it would improve the pc quite bit or probably better just a fresh reinstall of windows like u said

thanks again, and dw ur aint lazy u helpd me a ton for sure already :D!
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lol i have an i3-530 in my wallet
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