d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Computers & IT > Computer Building > Best 1440p 60hz 27"
Prev15678Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 23,919
Joined: Aug 2 2008
Gold: 165.00
Aug 22 2015 09:33am
Quote (Rikuo @ 22 Aug 2015 08:18)
God damn, Read shit in context.

I'm saying the difference of 30-60fps could be considered a slight exaggeration of the difference between 60-144hz


Don't know why you waste your time lol
Member
Posts: 105,144
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Aug 22 2015 09:36am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 22 2015 10:26am)
That's NOT true.

Take this as proof. If I stand behind and umpire or a golfer teeing off, I can see the ball clear as day with no blurring.
However, if I stand to the side of said golfer or batter, I can definitely see blurring of the base ball or the golf ball.

My point is, I don't think the human eye COULD see the difference. If it could, then wouldn't I be able to see the base ball NOT blur from a side view.
In other words, I think the human eye itself has a limit to how fast it can process what it sees. If it didn't, then I should see no blurring on a 90mph pitch, when viewed from the side.

As to monitors, I have to believe that the same holds true. Sure you can make a monitor that will show a 144fps game at 144Hz refresh rate, but is the EYE even be able to tell the difference.



/e Take a hummingbird. There is no way ANYONE can SEE it's individual wing flaps...until slow motion is enabled. Unfortunately the human eye doesn't have a slow motion switch.





What I'm trying to say is that, no matter how fast a screen can refresh, it will always be limited by how fast the human eye can process the information.
Member
Posts: 20,978
Joined: Apr 19 2006
Gold: 85.00
Aug 22 2015 09:36am
Human eye can see over200 fps
Member
Posts: 50,343
Joined: Apr 3 2008
Gold: 0.00
Aug 22 2015 09:37am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 22 2015 08:26am)
That's NOT true.

Take this as proof. If I stand behind and umpire or a golfer teeing off, I can see the ball clear as day with no blurring.
However, if I stand to the side of said golfer or batter, I can definitely see blurring of the base ball or the golf ball.

My point is, I don't think the human eye COULD see the difference. If it could, then wouldn't I be able to see the base ball NOT blur from a side view.
In other words, I think the human eye itself has a limit to how fast it can process what it sees. If it didn't, then I should see no blurring on a 90mph pitch, when viewed from the side.

As to monitors, I have to believe that the same holds true. Sure you can make a monitor that will show a 144fps game at 144Hz refresh rate, but is the EYE even be able to tell the difference.



/e Take a hummingbird. There is no way ANYONE can SEE it's individual wing flaps...until slow motion is enabled. Unfortunately the human eye doesn't have a slow motion switch.


Depends how far away you're standing from the pitch too, Since motion blur in vision is largely related to how fast an object crosses your field of view, The closer the object is to you, the less area it has to travel to cross your field of view. (this is assuming you're just looking straight ahead at a fixed point, and not moving your head to try to keep sight of the ball)

Do 100+mph in a car, Look out the window.. Objects close to you are moving in a giant blur, Objects a little further out are moving less blurry, So on so on. You're still seeing them at the same speed.


It's a little different with monitors though, Because they strobe 60-144 times a second, depending on your refresh rate.

Either way, Now i'm late for work lol

afk

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 22 2015 08:36am)
What I'm trying to say is that, no matter how fast a screen can refresh, it will always be limited by how fast the human eye can process the information.


Which is fine, I completely agree. But the limit of the eye is DEFINATELY not 60fps

Hell i doubt its even 150-200fps

This post was edited by Rikuo on Aug 22 2015 09:38am
Member
Posts: 105,144
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Aug 22 2015 09:43am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 22 2015 10:36am)
Human eye can see over200 fps



Well where's the proof, as you always say. :)


I will admit that a 144Hz may actually seem more fluid, but that's not real, anymore than slow motion is real.

I just did a really simple test on my 6oHz Dell Ultrasharp.

Black background, and I move the mouse cursor across the screen. If I move it slowly, I just see one cursor, moving across the screen.
If I move the mouse fast enough, I see individual cursorS about 2 inches apart. The faster I move the mouse, the further apart the cursorS seem to be.

/e Other than this simple test, I don't see how it would be possible, to actually show ANY difference in refresh rate.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 22 2015 09:43am
Member
Posts: 20,978
Joined: Apr 19 2006
Gold: 85.00
Aug 22 2015 09:45am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 22 2015 10:43am)
Well where's the proof, as you always say. :)


I will admit that a 144Hz may actually seem more fluid, but that's not real, anymore than slow motion is real.

I just did a really simple test on my 6oHz Dell Ultrasharp.

Black background, and I move the mouse cursor across the screen. If I move it slowly, I just see one cursor, moving across the screen.
If I move the mouse fast enough, I see individual cursorS about 2 inches apart. The faster I move the mouse, the further apart the cursorS seem to be.

/e Other than this simple test, I don't see how it would be possible, to actually show ANY difference in refresh rate.


Will link when i get home
Member
Posts: 105,144
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Member
Posts: 20,978
Joined: Apr 19 2006
Gold: 85.00
Aug 22 2015 09:54am
Member
Posts: 2,914
Joined: Apr 21 2013
Gold: 4.00
Aug 22 2015 10:09am
what i would really like to try is a three monitor setup but do you think one 980 at 1080p could handle that?
Member
Posts: 11,442
Joined: Jul 20 2004
Gold: 25.00
Aug 22 2015 11:14am
Go Back To Computer Building Topic List
Prev15678Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll