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Dec 22 2014 08:44am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 22 2014 06:09am)
yup

they aren't the industry standard, they are used to be derpy and lie to customers

they have nothing to do with showing how something performs from one game/app/engine/coding/etc to the next

yeah you can bring overclocking into the equation but when you compare them you must compare overclocking of all the others too  none of this 6300oc'd=8320, how is that comparing when one is overclocked, and asking a casual to overclock in the first place is derpy

yes an overclocked 8320 pretty much hit the same wall as overclocked 8350, but you have higher chance with the binned 8350 that's why we the words silicon lottery


Still don't understand? Benchmarks don't lie to people. They are derpy to casuals cos they don't understand the graphs, so they know dis "graph a is biggerz than graph b, must get a." I only repeated this 69th time. If you still don't get it Nvm. Used OP as a perfect example, he planned to get 8350 cos >>> 6300 in graphs. Did the benchmark tell him it's worth it? Nope. Is 8350 better than 6300? Yes. Is it worth spending $160 for gaming? Nope.

So you're telling me that, you'd get a casual 8350 with the amd stock cooler over 8320 with an evo 212? Cos it performs better? (no argument there, everyone knows 8350 is slightly better) that irl difference must be huuuuge, shame on you cos Ur not a casual, and u know full well u won't know which setup is using a 8350 vs 8320 with Ur naked eyes. Nvm the casuals eyes.

How cumz we give budget builds with 8320 instead of 8350? :rolleyes: totally not cos we can fit a better gpu or other components that would make more difference irl ( like a better rated psu with longer warranty/modular) rite?
Why do ppl suggest/get 6300 instead of 6350? :rolleyes:

Continuing it for you ninja :lol:

This post was edited by Secksii on Dec 22 2014 08:48am
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Dec 22 2014 09:17am
you don't get it you are asking a casual to overclock in previous posts

and a few fps is up to the casual to determine if they wish to have it, ofc there will be insider shit just like always like unlocking cores, same chip just down clocked or vice versa

edit: bios updates,custom bios, or another vendors bios

also the 8320/8350 perform a worlds difference better than the 6300 in multi threaded games/app/programs/etc which is what the benchmarks would tell us,

I find this amusing that you called them colorful bars and derpy but use them
argued 8320 vs 4670 no difference but you jumped ship from 8k series to i5 intel after all the threads you saying you wouldn't notice difference etc etc blah blah blah

also 5 fps can make huge difference
if you were getting 50fps average and jumped to 55 average, that's a significant jump in my eyes

find it funny people cheap out on processor and after upgrading their gpu they have a bottleneck why cuz people suggested cheaping out on their cpu with their intial build

people upgrade the gpu 2x to cpu, so why would you suggest cpus that will need to be upgraded in couple years anyways

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Dec 22 2014 09:24am
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Dec 22 2014 11:11am
I don't know why you guys are still debating lol.
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Dec 22 2014 11:45am
Quote (amej8 @ Dec 22 2014 12:11pm)
I don't know why you guys are still debating lol.


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Dec 22 2014 12:26pm
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I don't know why you guys are still debating lol.


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Dec 22 2014 01:04pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 22 2014 08:17am)
you don't get it you are asking a casual to overclock in previous posts

and a few fps is up to the casual to determine if they wish to have it, ofc there will be insider shit just like always like unlocking cores, same chip just down clocked or vice versa

edit: bios updates,custom bios, or another vendors bios

also the 8320/8350 perform a worlds difference better than the 6300 in multi threaded games/app/programs/etc which is what the benchmarks would tell us,

I find this amusing that you called them colorful bars and derpy but use them
argued 8320 vs 4670 no difference but you jumped ship from 8k series to i5 intel after all the threads you saying you wouldn't notice difference etc etc blah blah blah

also 5 fps can make huge difference
if you were getting 50fps average and jumped to 55 average, that's a significant jump in my eyes

find it funny people cheap out on processor and after upgrading their gpu they have a bottleneck why cuz people suggested cheaping out on their cpu with their intial build

people upgrade the gpu 2x to cpu, so why would you suggest cpus that will need to be upgraded in couple years anyways


U don't get it if u still think I'm still asking the casuals to OC,
Who said anything about jumping ships? Your intel fanboism clouding Ur mind is too str0nk.
U = amd is always shit, so intel worth paying ~$90 (8320 130-135, 4690k 220)on cpu alone in a budget computer
Me = both cpu is gfg, get intel if budget allows, get amd if it doesn't.

Reason why I brought up 4690k over 8350 with a 212?
Cos u want casuals to get 8350 vs 8320 w/ 212 based on benchmarks. So why not just say to get 4690k vs 8350 w/ 212 for $20 bux more? As u have always said.

I also didn't say I don't use benchmarks, I agree for the 69th time, that they are useful to use, just not for casuals, since all they see is graph A is better than graph B, so I'm getting graph A.

And ya, bullshit on noticing a 5fps difference with Ur naked eyes. I'd say it's worth it too, if I can notice it without a program telling me what fps im getting. Pls teach me how 2 notice ram speeds too?

Ur saying 8320/8350 is cheaping out on cpu? Oh man, I wonder why ppl still purchase em, or why amd came out with the e version if it's an outdated, bottlenecking cpu. Did a benchmark tell u that?

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Dec 22 2014 02:46pm
lol amd is shit now days I still have a 640 and 955 cpu

also do you know NVidia spends more on r and d than amd does on all of its lines put together

also like I have said many times over

time is money
if buying intel saves you 1 hour a month you made up the difference in cost in 2 months unless you making minimum wage or just poor ass

also intel's i3's beats amd in even single threaded apps/games/etc, 90-95% games and apps are single threaded

and yes I can notice 5fps difference up to the 75fps area,
and ram speeds have nothing to do with this conversation

all this just sounds like you QQ cuz you were "A Casual" and purchased a 8k cpu and trying to reason your purchase


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Dec 22 2014 03:40pm
Quote (amej8 @ Dec 22 2014 10:11am)
I don't know why you guys are still debating lol.

boys will be boys, this is what we do here in CHD. that, and drugs/games.
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boys will be boys, this is what we do here in CHD. that, and drugs/games.


Hell ya, best way to kill time and get ez +1's without 10% warns like in GC

Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 22 2014 01:46pm)
lol amd is shit now days I still have a 640 and 955 cpu

also do you know NVidia spends more on r and d than amd does on all of its lines put together

also like I have said many times over

time is money
if buying intel saves you 1 hour a month you made up the difference in cost in 2 months unless you making minimum wage or just poor ass

also intel's i3's beats amd in even single threaded apps/games/etc, 90-95% games and apps are single threaded

and yes I can notice 5fps difference up to the 75fps area,
and ram speeds have nothing to do with this conversation

all this just sounds like you QQ cuz you were  "A Casual" and purchased a 8k cpu and trying to reason your purchase



uw0tm8? u still has 640/955 but fx is a shit bottleneck cpu m8?
lol @ time is money :rofl: please explain what you mean by that in this case?

Cos what does saving you 1hour a month have to do with anything? that could be spent on sleep, eating, chillin, wastin time like dis, do u earn $$ 24hrs a day and get paid for it?

yes, im totally QQing cos i purchased 8350 and 8320 and i couldn't play any games with others that has an intel CPU with a lesser GPU. :cry: i craieverteim
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Dec 22 2014 07:35pm
Quote (Secksii @ Dec 22 2014 08:14pm)
Hell ya, best way to kill time and get ez +1's without 10% warns like in GC




uw0tm8? u still has 640/955 but fx is a shit bottleneck cpu m8?
lol @ time is money  :rofl: please explain what you mean by that in this case?

Cos what does saving you 1hour a month have to do with anything? that could be spent on sleep, eating, chillin, wastin time like dis, do u earn $$ 24hrs a day and get paid for it?

yes, im totally QQing cos i purchased 8350 and 8320 and i couldn't play any games with others that has an intel CPU with a lesser GPU.  :cry: i craieverteim


1 hour of time saved on pc in month cuz of intel faster in many single threaded software

2-2 1/2 months later time saved, I made up the difference from going with intel,

also if you still owned a intel cpu from 5 yrs ago you are just running into bottleneck issues with todays gpus, bought amd 3 yrs ago you would been bottlenecking with last years gpus

and wow lots of gibberish in that post
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