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Feb 21 2016 05:23am
i was actually going to get a SSD for when i first put it together.

was going to add: SSD net card and maybe double the ram.
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Feb 21 2016 10:04am
If you plan on getting an SSD as well as adding some more RAM.
Get the following bellow for the rest.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/s2GQTW
Total: $392.95 without MIR
Total: $372.95 with MIR

-I included 16GB of ram instead of 8GB, you can slice the price in half if you still want to go with 8GB.
-I also included a 480GB SSD for only $80. It's not the fastest SSD but for gaming good enough and obviously better than a mechanical drive.
You will achieve about 150MB writes which you probably won't be doing much of and about 450MB reads, which is what you need for gaming.
-Also I gave you a 500W PSU for $10 more without MIR and same price without MIR.
-Last for video card, I gave you a GTX 960. It is about $50 more then the R7 370, but it is also better as well as better value $ per performance.

If you want to go cheaper then that, let me know how much you want to spend exactly and I will adjust parts.
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Feb 21 2016 10:32am
I hardly think that the Kingston SSD exists for $79. If you klick on the link it redirects you to a "Page not found" site. It is most likely just a pricing mistake that was not updated by pcpartpicker yet.
The next cheapest retailer ois amazon at $131.16

This post was edited by maulepan on Feb 21 2016 10:32am
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Quote (maulepan @ Feb 21 2016 08:32am)
I hardly think that the Kingston SSD exists for $79. If you klick on the link it redirects you to a "Page not found" site. It is most likely just a pricing mistake that was not updated by pcpartpicker yet.
The next cheapest retailer ois amazon at $131.16


Well dammit, stupid website posting wrong price on partpicker.
I was actually going to buy 4-6 of them and run 2 in RAID 0 and sell the rest on craigslist BNIB for a profit.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wNMszy
Total: $376.95 without MIR
Total: $356.95 with MIR

This only has 240GB SSD, if you need more space, you can add a cheap $40 1TB HDD.
Since you save $15 on SSD, it will only be an additional $25.
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Feb 21 2016 12:31pm
Quote (Fr3nChi @ Feb 21 2016 04:39am)
If you plan to upgrade in the future, it won't be worth it. This system will be way too behind.
The build you gave me doesn't even include a wifi adapter or Windows10 or a Monitor.
You are also spending more on mobo then you are on processor.

This is what I would recommend for around $500.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M6X8Lk
Total: $517.76 without MIR
Total: $497.76 with MIR

This is what I would recommend for closer to $550.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b29g8d
Total: $557.76 without MIR
Total: $537.76 with MIR
(this includes a better GPU)


What?

G3258 has better single core performance than an FX-6300. Also, he could upgrade to an I5-4460 later. That CPU would still carry him for 3-5 years depending on his needs. For his budget an Intel system is a much better choice. AMD is so far behind and as everyone would agree the FX series of CPUs are pure trash. When Zen is released, AMD will no longer support the AM3+ at all.
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Feb 21 2016 01:40pm
Quote (Deny @ Feb 21 2016 10:31am)
What?

G3258 has better single core performance than an FX-6300. Also, he could upgrade to an I5-4460 later. That CPU would still carry him for 3-5 years depending on his needs. For his budget an Intel system is a much better choice. AMD is so far behind and as everyone would agree the FX series of CPUs are pure trash. When Zen is released, AMD will no longer support the AM3+ at all.


Ya, but if he runs some background tasks, and has his browser open and has a music player going, his game performance will drop.
If he plans to only play games then it shouldn't be a problem. Plus it significantly doesn't future proof his CPU, as most future games, programs, ect., will require more cores.

It doesn't matter anyways since he already purchased his motherboard and CPU.
However, 1.5-3 years from now his CPU will not be able to keep up with requirement of multi core processing
But, the FX-6300 will be able to, especially if you overclock it.

If he needs this system for a short time and he plans to upgrade the CPU in the future then the G3258 is definitely a better option.

I personally hate AMD, they do make shit processors compared to AMD, but if I wanted to build something that would last and future proof for this price range I would go with the FX series.

They way I look at it when building a computer is, if I'm spending $1000 and will last me 5 years compared to $500 that will last me 2 years, I will go with the $1000 system.
I usually go for price/performance/longevity.

I personally would spend double the price and have a system that will last me way more then double and will outperform it by miles, like this system bellow
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fr3nChi/saved/#view=pgC7YJ
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Feb 21 2016 02:04pm
Quote (Fr3nChi @ Feb 21 2016 02:40pm)
Ya, but if he runs some background tasks, and has his browser open and has a music player going, his game performance will drop.
If he plans to only play games then it shouldn't be a problem. Plus it significantly doesn't future proof his CPU, as most future games, programs, ect., will require more cores.

It doesn't matter anyways since he already purchased his motherboard and CPU.
However, 1.5-3 years from now his CPU will not be able to keep up with requirement of multi core processing
But, the FX-6300 will be able to, especially if you overclock it.

If he needs this system for a short time and he plans to upgrade the CPU in the future then the G3258 is definitely a better option.

I personally hate AMD, they do make shit processors compared to AMD, but if I wanted to build something that would last and future proof for this price range I would go with the FX series.

They way I look at it when building a computer is, if I'm spending $1000 and will last me 5 years compared to $500 that will last me 2 years, I will go with the $1000 system.
I usually go for price/performance/longevity.

I personally would spend double the price and have a system that will last me way more then double and will outperform it by miles, like this system bellow
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fr3nChi/saved/#view=pgC7YJ


Even in 3 years he could still purchase an I5 4460 or an I7 4790. Even used they would still perform a lot better than an FX-6300. A 6300 is a garbage CPU, no point even debating it. You could overclock it to the very maximum and it's still way below even a 4690K. Recommending that CPU for a budget build is just ridiculous. I wouldn't even use that for an HTPC.
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Feb 21 2016 02:22pm
Quote (Deny @ Feb 21 2016 12:04pm)
Even in 3 years he could still purchase an I5 4460 or an I7 4790. Even used they would still perform a lot better than an FX-6300. A 6300 is a garbage CPU, no point even debating it. You could overclock it to the very maximum and it's still way below even a 4690K. Recommending that CPU for a budget build is just ridiculous. I wouldn't even use that for an HTPC.
Yes, it wouldn't compare to a 4690K. But my point was to not make any upgrades at all to the system. I agree with you the FX-6300 is shit. I agree with you for the build right now for the use he requires now the G3258 is better. But, if he will spend $200 on a processor in the future and more on a GPU, or if he plans on doing a full system upgrade might as well go for a $800-$1000 build and get way better performance now and beat what ever he would upgrade to later on with this build anyways. Like this build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fr3nChi/saved/#view=pgC7YJ.

I am not disagreeing with you an your points at all. All I'm trying to say, is the money he is spending now is not worth it.
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Feb 21 2016 02:27pm
Quote (Fr3nChi @ Feb 21 2016 03:22pm)
Yes, it wouldn't compare to a 4690K. But my point was to not make any upgrades at all to the system. I agree with you the FX-6300 is shit. I agree with you for the build right now for the use he requires now the G3258 is better. But, if he will spend $200 on a processor in the future and more on a GPU, or if he plans on doing a full system upgrade might as well go for a $800-$1000 build and get way better performance now and beat what ever he would upgrade to later on with this build anyways. Like this build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fr3nChi/saved/#view=pgC7YJ.

I am not disagreeing with you an your points at all. All I'm trying to say, is the money he is spending now is not worth it.


He has a budget for a reason. He wants the best bang for his dollar which a G3258 is going to give him over a FX-6300. If he wants to save more money and purchase a different PC in 2 -3 years he can. But, at the moment he doesn't have the money.

Considering most games only uise 1 core at the moment then he needs the best single core performance he could get. There is an I3 Skylake that outperforms just about everything on single core, but, it's not within his budget so I didn't even go there.
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Feb 22 2016 12:21am
Quote (Deny @ Feb 21 2016 12:27pm)
He has a budget for a reason. He wants the best bang for his dollar which a G3258 is going to give him over a FX-6300. If he wants to save more money and purchase a different PC in 2 -3 years he can. But, at the moment he doesn't have the money.

Considering most games only uise 1 core at the moment then he needs the best single core performance he could get. There is an I3 Skylake that outperforms just about everything on single core, but, it's not within his budget so I didn't even go there.


Ok, you are right a G3258 is better, I agree with you. No need to drag this on forever.
I am saying he isn't getting the best bang for his dollar with this price range.

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