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Dec 21 2014 02:44pm
Quote (amej8 @ Dec 21 2014 01:31pm)
Benchmarks are only derpy for computer saavy people, which casual users aren't. You were arguing based on your personal opinion on benchmarks. Benchmarks serve a useful purpose for people that don't see beyond the purpose of a benchmark.


no... benchmarks aren't derpy for computer savvy people cos they understand it more than a casual.
The point im trying to make is that the most people (casuals) that use benchmarks just see "graph A is better than B, so i will get A" that's why it's derpy.

benchmark clearly wasn't useful for you, as you were gonna spend another $160 for a 8350, whereas a non-casual will see the benchmark and be like "k not worth, rather spend dat budget elsewhere"
but to you, it was the benchmark of 8350 > 6300, so i'll get 8350. Tho, u didn't get it, cos you were smart enuff to get opinions, and info. from PEOPLE, not benchmarks.

Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 21 2014 01:42pm)
lol benchmarks serve a purpose for saavy users also
there are benchmarks that show overclocked results
some reviews show more detailed results of the silicon lottery also

seski
and again you talk about overclocking, you are asking people to get educated/spending time on something they are uncomfortable with or might not care to do,


where am i talking about overclocking again? just cos they could purchase an aftermarket cooler doesn't mean they HAVE TO overclock. Just sayin' it's more beneficial to have the same CPU clocked less, with a 212 than same CPU clocked higher with stock cooler for a casual.
As they won't feel any hugeass difference in performance, but will at least know that the fan is quieter and it's keeping the CPU colder..

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no... benchmarks aren't derpy for computer savvy people cos they understand it more than a casual.
The point im trying to make is that the most people (casuals) that use benchmarks just see "graph A is better than B, so i will get A" that's why it's derpy.

benchmark clearly wasn't useful for you, as you were gonna spend another $160 for a 8350, whereas a non-casual will see the benchmark and be like "k not worth, rather spend dat budget elsewhere"
but to you, it was the benchmark of 8350 > 6300, so i'll get 8350. Tho, u didn't get it, cos you were smart enuff to get opinions, and info. from PEOPLE, not benchmarks.



where am i talking about overclocking again? just cos they could purchase an aftermarket cooler doesn't mean they HAVE TO overclock. Just sayin' it's more beneficial to have the same CPU clocked less, with a 212 than same CPU clocked higher with stock cooler for a casual.
As they won't feel any hugeass difference in performance, but will at least know that the fan is quieter and it's keeping the CPU colder..


didnt you bitch about all this with your fx but went ahead and bought intel?
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Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 21 2014 02:02pm)
didnt you bitch about all this with your fx but went ahead and bought intel?


Yeah, bought two 4690k, selling one for sure, might keep the other.
Being able to fit bk1 with 4690k with 970 for 1k cad is auto profit.
Would have gone with FX if I could fit a better gpu than a 970, but there's no gpu that could fit that 1k budget.

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Dec 21 2014 10:09pm
Almost forgot my mobo has a poor thermal design and is not recommended to OC on. Can anyone recommend me a cheaper mobo to OC with? Cheaper as in closer to $100.
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Dec 21 2014 10:22pm
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extreme4
Is decent for overclocking and cheap

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-990fxagd65v2
Fixes the voltage problem of your current motherboard but is a little over $100.
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Quote (DeXaFiLaH @ 21 Dec 2014 22:22)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extreme4
Is decent for overclocking and cheap

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-990fxagd65v2
Fixes the voltage problem of your current motherboard but is a little over $100.


Bro we're arguing about benchmarks here. Stay up with the convo mate.
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Dec 21 2014 11:08pm
Quote (NinjaSushi2 @ Dec 22 2014 12:47am)
Bro we're arguing about benchmarks here. Stay up with the convo mate.


Sorry, was too busy answering the OP's questions.

But yeah

BIGGER BENCHMARK BAR IS BETTER BECAUSE PENIS IS BIGGER
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Quote (DeXaFiLaH @ Dec 21 2014 11:22pm)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extreme4
Is decent for overclocking and cheap

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-990fxagd65v2
Fixes the voltage problem of your current motherboard but is a little over $100.


Thanks.

Hmm another 970 eh? Depending on how much I actually get from Christmas money, I suppose I should hold out for something a little more pricey eh?

I looked at this one earlier: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

Quote (NinjaSushi2 @ Dec 21 2014 11:47pm)
Bro we're arguing about benchmarks here. Stay up with the convo mate.


Haha :bonk:

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That ASUS is a good board. The MSI one I linked is good too. It would be worth it to spend the extra $20 and get either of those boards.
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Quote (NinjaSushi2 @ Dec 21 2014 11:47pm)
Bro we're arguing about benchmarks here. Stay up with the convo mate.


yup

they aren't the industry standard, they are used to be derpy and lie to customers

they have nothing to do with showing how something performs from one game/app/engine/coding/etc to the next

yeah you can bring overclocking into the equation but when you compare them you must compare overclocking of all the others too none of this 6300oc'd=8320, how is that comparing when one is overclocked, and asking a casual to overclock in the first place is derpy

yes an overclocked 8320 pretty much hit the same wall as overclocked 8350, but you have higher chance with the binned 8350 that's why we the words silicon lottery





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