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May 24 2017 11:37am
So about that budget???
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Quote (nexcoor @ 25 May 2017 01:58)


what?
go check used prices for 2500k, 2600k and 2700k

Quote (Incendiary @ 19 May 2017 07:13)
If you're recommending an i5 (k or otherwise) for any reason other than "it's on sale for 50% off" then you're making a poor recommendation.


you're making a poor recommendation if you're strictly telling the OP to purchase old gen i7 at much higher cost than a 2500k when it's more than enough to play the games he listed. Ofc if he could get i7's as cheap as i5's then he should go for it. Otherwise, nn to waste dump money on it when he's gonna have to upgrade cpu/mobo/ram next anyway.


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Quote (Secksii @ May 25 2017 12:36pm)
what?
go check used prices for 2500k, 2600k and 2700k

I'm not a user of eBay, even less of the American site so I have no idea which of the prices are legit. $50~100 for i7, $40~90 for i5. What are you trying to say?

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you're making a poor recommendation if you're strictly telling the OP to purchase old gen i7 at much higher cost than a 2500k when it's more than enough to play the games he listed. Ofc if he could get i7's as cheap as i5's then he should go for it. Otherwise, nn to waste dump money on it when he's gonna have to upgrade cpu/mobo/ram next anyway.

If this was your point, what did you mean by
Quote (Secksii @ May 18 2017 09:34pm)
2500k/2600k fixed go do Ur hmk boy
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Didn't see any fixing done by you, unless you're trying to tell me that 2700K is not an option.

And as for your response to Incendiary, I doubt all OP ever does is just plays PoE. I sure as hell have stream(s) or video(s) open in the background quite often, having an old i7 vs an old i5 is obviously a lot more useful in daily life of Windows gaming if they're even $40 from each other. Buying an old i5 today means he wont enjoy playing BF1 or any other CPU hogging game, might as well get 30%~ more processing power for generic multitasking.

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I'm not a user of eBay, even less of the American site so I have no idea which of the prices are legit. $50~100 for i7, $40~90 for i5. What are you trying to say?


If this was your point, what did you mean by
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Didn't see any fixing done by you, unless you're trying to tell me that 2700K is not an option.


im saying go do your homework then, if you have no idea what the prices are why bother?

my point is 2500k can be found for around ~$100,
2600k for around ~150
2700k ~$190+
so yeah, my point is if he can find the 2600k for cheaper like 2500k, he should get it.
Why would you recommend him to get 2700k when it's overpriced as fuck due to its less availability compared to the 2500/2600???


And as for your response to Incendiary, I doubt all OP ever does is just plays PoE. I sure as hell have stream(s) or video(s) open in the background quite often, having an old i7 vs an old i5 is obviously a lot more useful in daily life of Windows gaming if they're even $40 from each other. Buying an old i5 today means he wont enjoy playing BF1 or any other CPU hogging game, might as well get 30%~ more processing power for generic multitasking.
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as for that, you have no idea what you're saying. I doubt you used the 2500k. That's a pretty bold statement, cuz im still choosin to use my 2500k over my other builds.

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im saying go do your homework then, if you have no idea what the prices are why bother?

my point is 2500k can be found for around ~$100,
2600k for around ~150
2700k ~$190+
so yeah, my point is if he can find the 2600k for cheaper like 2500k, he should get it.
Why would you recommend him to get 2700k when it's overpriced as fuck due to its less availability compared to the 2500/2600???

Oh, you didn't read the original post. I was simply telling OP to get Sandy or Ivy i7.

I understand everyone is eager to show their prowess, but please don't offend me in the future if you're unable to see that my listing is missing i5 completely. Feel free to argue why it should have an i5, as you're doing now, instead of trying to be a dick.

Quote (Secksii @ May 25 2017 01:02pm)
as for that, you have no idea what you're saying. I doubt you used the 2500k. That's a pretty bold statement, cuz im still choosin to use my 2500k over my other builds.

Feel free to enlighten me how that is incorrect. I ran i5 3570K in my main rig for a two years which surely is equal enough in both of our books.

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Oh, you didn't read the original post. I was simply telling OP to get Sandy or Ivy i7.

I understand everyone is eager to show their prowess, but please don't offend me in the future if you're unable to see that my listing is missing i5 completely. Feel free to argue why it should have an i5, as you're doing now, instead of trying to be a dick.


Feel free to enlighten me how that is incorrect. I ran i5 3570K in my main rig for a two years which surely is equal enough in both of our books.


how did i offend you? you're the one telling others to do their homework,yet you're giving advice on what the OP should get without even knowing the prices??? and i asked you to do hmk too?
are you saying you had problems playing bf1 while having stream/vids open on another monitor with 3570k?
you do realize an overclocked 2500k still performs close to stock 6th gen intel CPU's right? just cuz they're old doesn't mean you can't enjoy playing bf1 with other shit open. If that were true, i5 wouldn't exist at its current cost nor be relevant.

im not trying to be a dick, js he doesnt need to spend close to $200 to do what he wants.
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May 25 2017 05:54am
When I tell people to do their homework when they tell the i3 is fine I offend them and I do it on purpose. In this case Mason's advice was bad, but that doesn't mean my wording isn't offensive. I applied the same to you, irregardless if you did/do it on purpose.

Sorry about not understanding "hmk", I thought you said 'hmmk', as in hmm ok. This Kik isn't really a thing here in Finland. That was my bad.

And you still don't seem to understand the point in the price thing; I never weighed any of the options I offered. I gave OP what were in my opinion the best choices, and left him and other Americans find the best choice out of the options. I knew any of the three would be a lot cheaper than upgrading to new mobo but and was pretty sure the i5 vs i7 difference wouldn't be more than $60 just by guessing, and as you just told me, I was correct.

I'm very well aware the current Intels haven't gone up all that much in IPC clock for clock, that is exactly why I'm recommending OP to get the old i7 and not to upgrade to newer platform.

If you're trying to tell me i5's wouldn't exist if they're mediocre at running newest games alongside other processes, you should listen to yourself. Why wouldn't they exist? They're relevant as a top-end option (or at least were before Ryzen - and I'll treat it as such in the coming conv) for most gaming, but not in the most multi-threaded CPU heavy games such as the BF1 we mentioned. The i5's are a good option, but surely not the best for everything. By this sense I'd say you claiming them irrelevant for not being the best is silly and definitely out of context.

The friends who I played BF1 with had varying setups. The ones using i5's had significantly more lag game disturbing spikes in 32-man games than the ones using i7's, not to mention 64. At least two of those i5 fellows had better GPU than I do or one of the other guys who had i7. Most of the peeps I played with the most had/have vid or stream in the background, if their computer allowed it. Feel free to tell me if you've had opposing experiences.

I used BF1 as an example of overclocked Intel CPU's being pushed to the limit. Same would apply if he'd play PoE and had CPU intensive tasks in the background. After playing as much as I have, I'd choose a few dedicated cores for PoE and multiple cores, HT or not, for background shenanigans over taking the chance of having my computer buttfuck my gear from me because I just wanted to watch a stream on source when I'm in town without changing it to lower quality when I'm mapping actively. I died a few chars with pretty neat 6l's this season due to my router lagging before buying a new one and I wouldn't want that happening to anyone else. I would still pay that forementioned estimated margin of $60 just to make my hobby more enjoyable.
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May 25 2017 09:02am
Quote (Secksii @ May 25 2017 05:36am)
what?
go check used prices for 2500k, 2600k and 2700k



you're making a poor recommendation if you're strictly telling the OP to purchase old gen i7 at much higher cost than a 2500k when it's more than enough to play the games he listed. Ofc if he could get i7's as cheap as i5's then he should go for it. Otherwise, nn to waste dump money on it when he's gonna have to upgrade cpu/mobo/ram next anyway.


I didn't tell him to get an i7 you doorknob.
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Quote (Incendiary @ May 25 2017 09:02am)
I didn't tell him to get an i7 you doorknob.


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