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Oct 21 2015 02:40pm

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That's what we're hoping for. If anything, you'll find an i5+mobo combo at least. Plus, the other parts will have some sort of discount.

The main components I'm thinking of are: i5, r9 380/GTX 960 gpu (or a really nice deal on a r9 390/GTX 970), 500w bronze (maybe gold) psu.

I did some research for PoE, and it seems that PoE is still not optimized. PoE can get demanding when you're in a full party and everyone using their skills simultaneously. Early you mentioned, you won't mind playing other games on medium. I think the GTX 960 will be sufficient for you.

edit. Here's a visual to have an idea where the 960 compares to other video cards on PoE
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1399&compareGPU=Path%20of%20Exile

LMFAO and wheres my gtx 460M on that chart? xD (thats what my current laptop has)

is my 460m worst than the botom radeon r7 7500? xD

mine is ddr5 1.5gb idk the other specs xD

wait omg i found this, its the 460m specs xD

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-460m/specifications

lmfao even the 960 has like 72texture fill rate mine is fucking 16 lmfao

also according to the link you gave me the radeon r9 would be way better than nvidia for poe ?

also for the radeon r9 290 were talking about 399$ brand new on neweggs.ca or 299$ refurbished

for the gtx 960 were talking again on neweggs from like 250 to 350 depending on the specs and stuff and the 970 is 400-500 i think ^^

maybe with some luck we can find a gtx 970 + CPU + ram +motherboard bundle ^^ or same bundle with the AMD r9 one

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LMFAO and wheres my gtx 460M on that chart? xD (thats what my current laptop has)

is my 460m worst than the botom radeon r7 7500? xD

mine is ddr5 1.5gb idk the other specs xD

wait omg i found this, its the 460m specs xD

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-460m/specifications

lmfao even the 960 has like 72texture fill rate mine is fucking 16 lmfao

also according to the link you gave me the radeon r9 would be way better than nvidia for poe ?

also for the radeon r9 290 were talking about 399$ brand new on neweggs.ca or 299$ refurbished

for the gtx 960 were talking again on neweggs from like 250 to 350 depending on the specs and stuff and the 970 is 400-500 i think ^^

maybe with some luck we can find a gtx 970 + CPU + ram +motherboard bundle ^^ or same bundle with the AMD r9 one

The 390 is the new version of the 290. its improved and has 8gb of vram. I would be looking at that.
The 970 is about the same performance as the 390, except has 4gb (3.5gb) of vram. I would get the 390 if the price is similar.

Your current gpu is somewhere in the range of that radeon 7870m.
Also, the specs of a GPU do not tell you much of anything about it's performance, so it's not usually practical to look at them.

If you want to compare GPU's use charts like these

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1496?vs=1442

The 2nd link doesn't have a lot of gpus on it, but it does have the newer stuff (the past 6 months newer stuff)
the first link has a lot of gpus but does not have a few of the new gpus (mainly the 300 series from AMD)

I would still recommend you look at going lower on the intel chain. Buying the latest CPU is a poor allocation of your money because cpu does not = more performance.
If you cant afford a 290/390/970, because you are buying an expensive processor/mobo, you are not optimizing your build and you will get less performance had you simply bought a cheaper processor and a more expensive graphics processor.

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Oct 21 2015 03:01pm

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The 390 is the new version of the 290. its improved and has 8gb of vram. I would be looking at that.
The 970 is about the same performance as the 390, except has 4gb (3.5gb) of vram. I would get the 390 if the price is similar.

Your current gpu is somewhere in the range of that radeon 7870m.
Also, the specs of a GPU do not tell you much of anything about it's performance, so it's not usually practical to look at them.

If you want to compare GPU's use charts like these

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/815

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1496?vs=1442

The 2nd link doesn't have a lot of gpus on it, but it does have the newer stuff (the past 6 months newer stuff)
the first link has a lot of gpus but does not have a few of the new gpus (mainly the 300 series from AMD)

I would still recommend you look at going lower on the intel chain. Buying the latest CPU is a poor allocation of your money because cpu does not = more performance.
If you cant afford a 290/390/970, because you are buying an expensive processor/mobo, you are not optimizing your build and you will get less performance had you simply bought a cheaper processor and a more expensive graphics processor.

i didnt even know the 390 was out

id like if you could give me a price estimate between them if you know it ^^ i CANT afford to put 500 on the gpu atm ^^ i mean i doubt we can complete the rest with under 600ish

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Oct 21 2015 03:05pm

Quote (NumbSouls @ Oct 21 2015 05:01pm)
i didnt even know the 390 was out

id like if you could give me a price estimate between them if you know it ^^ i CANT afford to put 500 on the gpu atm ^^ i mean i doubt we can complete the rest with under 600ish

the 390 is about 415, i used one in the build i posted a bit back
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/svkkMp
The 970 is 400. Personally would go the 390.
If you can't go 390, id continue looking at the 960/280 or 380 or 280x
However Id also still not get the 6600k because for the lower gpu, you're still just wasting the cash. They perform too similarly for you to blow the extra 100-150 bucks.

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Oct 21 2015 03:08pm

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the 390 is about 415, i used one in the build i posted a bit back
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/svkkMp
The 970 is 400. Personally would go the 390.
If you can't go 390, id continue looking at the 960/280 or 380 or 280x
However Id also still not get the 6600k because for the lower gpu, you're still just wasting the cash. They perform too similarly for you to blow the extra 200 bucks.

yeh that build is nice, the prices includes any applicable taxes btw?

the motherboard would be able to support a better cpu if i ever upgrade it or neh?

also the case is really not a problem as long as everything fits in idc if its ugly etc id rather brag about the performance of the pc than the looks lmfao.

also theres no big hurry ill be buying this end of november or begening of december depending on some personal stuff ^^ maybe prices will drop a little bit before that

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Oct 21 2015 03:17pm

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yeh that build is nice, the prices includes any applicable taxes btw?

the motherboard would be able to support a better cpu if i ever upgrade it or neh?

No, but I left some room to play with. You could always reduce costs by getting a HDD instead of an ssd, freeing up an additional 50 bucks or so.

As for better cpu, thats a tough question, but the simple answer is yes, the mobo supports stronger i5s and i7s. (though this specific one wont be able to overclock)
I think you may be underestimating how good the 4460 is
Unless Dx12 makes more cores useful, this is one of the best processors you would buy for gaming. (top 5 - possibly top 10)
And within that top 10 processors, there is very small differences between them, in terms of gaming, even when talking about overclocking.

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Oct 21 2015 03:21pm

Quote (Rapture @ Oct 21 2015 04:17pm)

No, but I left some room to play with. You could always reduce costs by getting a HDD instead of an ssd, freeing up an additional 50 bucks or so.

As for better cpu, thats a tough question, but the simple answer is yes, the mobo supports stronger i5s and i7s. (though this specific one wont be able to overclock)
I think you may be underestimating how good the 4460 is :P
Unless Dx12 makes more cores useful, this is one of the best processors you would buy for gaming. (top 5 - possibly top 10)
And within that top 10 processors, there is very small differences between them, in terms of gaming, even when talking about overclocking.

allright ^^ i guess that should work then, with taxes and all we reach like 1200 thats a bit over but i dont mind it too much

also what kind of cheap but good 21-24inch monitor should i get? and keyboard?

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Oct 21 2015 03:29pm

Well this is the cheapest, but its not ips and only 22 inch
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umwg6aab01

This one is 24 inchs and IPS but obviously more expensive
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vn248hp

then this one is a cheaper 23 inch IPS
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umvh6aa003

If you don't know what IPS is in short, the colors look better and it has better viewing angles. Overall it means better picture, but it isn't totally necessary. its up to you if you want to the spend that extra.

Those would be some of my pics for budget monitors.

keyboard, get what you like on something that is decently reviewed. Aside from quality, a keyboard is a keyboard. I personally dont mind cheap generic keyboards from the thrift store, as they work just as well as anything else
but you can get something flashy or with features such as macros if you want them.

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Well this is the cheapest, but its not ips and only 22 inch
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umwg6aab01

This one is 24 inchs and IPS but obviously more expensive
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vn248hp

then this one is a cheaper 23 inch IPS
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umvh6aa003

If you don't know what IPS is in short, the colors look better and it has better viewing angles. Overall it means better picture, but it isn't totally necessary. its up to you if you want to the spend that extra.

Those would be some of my pics for budget monitors.

keyboard, get what you like on something that is decently reviewed. Aside from quality, a keyboard is a keyboard. I personally dont mind cheap generic keyboards from the thrift store, as they work just as well as anything else :P
but you can get something flashy or with features such as macros if you want them.

i was mostly wondering if its worth going for a mecanical one or not ^^ (for the keyboard)

for the monitors i knew theres something about refresh rate or something like some are 120hz or something ( might not be 144 but whatever im really a noob when it comes to that)

i would assume the high refresh rate monitors are way more expensive?

for the IPS unless my current one is IPS id prolly not even care about it because the the color well im slightly color blind haha and the size dont matter much to me I DO NOT want something big like 26' right now im doing fine with my 17.3inch laptop screen but as im going to move to a desktop id like to know what it feels like to play on 21+ inch

(i always gamed on laptops in my life, and the only time i gamed on desktops it was like a 17inch and not flat screen at all #remember the big bulky 50pounds screens xD)

i just checked about viewing angles, basicly if im looking at the screen straight in front of it it shouldnt matter right ? i mean i don't really invite my friends over to watch me game from the side of me

im more worried about refresh rate

for the resolutions 1080p is fine to me dont really plan on using 1440 or 4k ^^

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Oct 21 2015 04:10pm

Yeah thats pretty much it.
As for refresh rate, ill try to sum it up.

A normal screen is 60 hz, that means it can display 60 FPS. A vast majority of screens are 60.
You can get 120 hz or 144 hz screens which means they can display 120/144 fps. THat however means you need enough power in your cpu/graphics to reach that many frames, otherwise there is no difference between 144 hz and 60 hz if you're running at 40-50fps.
The animation looks smoother on 144 hz, but its not necessarily a huge difference for some people, check out this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgr9GW3jUuQ

he does a decent job at showing it.

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