Quote (russki1 @ Mar 23 2014 07:37pm)

Yea but whats the point of getting a GTX 770 which is a PCIE 3.0 card when AMD boards only support PCIE 2.0.  The bus speed is much slower.  Your capping a video card, no point in spending that money if you cant take advantage of it.

Quote (NewKID @ Mar 23 2014 04:39pm)

barely any advantage with the pcie 3.0

Quote (russki1 @ Mar 23 2014 07:37pm)

Yea but whats the point of getting a GTX 770 which is a PCIE 3.0 card when AMD boards only support PCIE 2.0.  The bus speed is much slower.  Your capping a video card, no point in spending that money if you cant take advantage of it.

Quote (russki1 @ Mar 23 2014 07:40pm)

orl? http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/callsign_vega/PCI-ETests.jpg

Quote (NewKID @ Mar 23 2014 04:43pm)

how is this relevant to helpin OP build a computer?

Quote (NewKID @ Mar 23 2014 04:39pm)

barely any advantage with the pcie 3.0

Quote (russki1 @ Mar 22 2014 10:08pm)

Get 4x8gb aka 32 gb total ram.  Mount a ramdisk of size ~20 GB using AMD Ramdisk or another program.  Run your games from the RamDisk.  Makes any world change turbo fast. (like in D3 join games a lot faster).

Drop the AMD, its a piece of crap and doesnt have the right extensions to take advantage of things like AVX2, SSE4.
CPU performance you wanna look at single thread performance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
As you can see the Intel 3770k blows the AMD linked above out the water.  Even better if you can get a 4770k.
(Why?) Games are not heavily multithreaded apps. And would have most expensive things running on only a few threads.

Drop the expensive video card. Dont need to drop a fortune on those. Their over marketed. Most NVidias cards are the same sht. Unless you doing autocad then you need Quadro class. 

Drop the powersupply, buy one at a local shop for no more than 30 euro.  a 450W would be enough.  No need to spend a fortune on them.  All power supplies now have surge protection.  (make sure it says surge protection)

Drop the fan for the CPU, you wont be overclocking (if your asking here how to build a PC, you wont be overclocking).  There's no need unless you want your computer to work worse.  Stock coolers now are very good, they wont allow the CPU to overheat even under 100% consistent load.

Drop the ripoff highspeed ram.  You wont notice a difference unless your using the ram for a in-memory database being accessed every millisecond.  Most games bottleneck on CPU / a single thread (due to bad code) then accessing ram.  Also DDR4 is around the corner (Fall 2014), which will make the highest speed ram now obsolete.  So try to cheap out as much as possible on ram.  Me personally I am waiting until 2014/2015 to make my next beast rig.  To have full access to affordable PCI-E drives and DDR4.  Also hoping intel releases a i7/E3 class processor that can support over 32gb of ram. (with ddr4)

Drop the CD/DVD RW.  Buy a USB one, itl be almost the same price, wont take up your PSU wattage, will keep your sht cleaner... and its portable.

That website has ripoff prices btw. 

A 4770k is 310$ in USA:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

Not sure why its the same price in Euro's over there. 50%+ markup?

http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i73770k
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pv332g160c0qk
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx650e2gd5

If thats over your budget drop back down to 8gb ram.  But don't cheap out on CPU.  Also you can drop the 1TB drive if you already have a drive lying around.  The ram can be bought used from someone else. (ram doesn't burn/break).

shopcart looks like
http://i.imgur.com/VEdMCbV.png

Quote (russki1 @ Mar 23 2014 07:44pm)

How is that relevant for OP. But im sure it relevant for you.

Quote (VVR4ITH @ Mar 23 2014 04:41pm)

Again, I'll just tell you to play a game on similar 8320 and 3770k builds.  I don't care how many benchmarks you throw at me.  If I don't tell you which PC contains which CPU, you can't tell the difference.

Quote (russki1 @ Mar 23 2014 07:47pm)

Sure that's true. Playing 1 Game, on 1 Monitor, without running anything in the background, or having a second game minimized. There will probably not be a difference, unless the game favors single threads. Then the 3770k could be a noticeable difference. (such as a large siege in Aion I strongly assume would run better on the 3770k)

Quote (VVR4ITH @ Mar 23 2014 04:50pm)

Even then, you won't notice a difference if I don't tell you which PC contains which CPU.

If you can't tell the difference, and both CPUs give you the same gaming performance, why spend more?

I personally have a 3770k, and the only reason I need it is for my video editing.  If I didn't, I'd probably pick up an 8320 since it's good for streaming.