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May 15 2018 01:54pm
I mean I did fit in his headset and give him a better mouse/keyboard, better monitor and a gpu with dual fans.
Kinda smashed both of yours together and tweaked it while coming in lower then both of you in price, but w/e

This post was edited by King Atrhur on May 15 2018 01:54pm
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I mean I did fit in his headset and give him a better mouse/keyboard, better monitor and a gpu with dual fans.
Kinda smashed both of yours together and tweaked it while coming in lower then both of you in price, but w/e


The LG monitor is not better than the Dell. Also when did more GPU fans mean that it's better?
I'll agree that you gave him a better mouse/keyboard than the generic microsoft one i linked, but they're only temporary til OP saves up more for the 12 button mouse he needs/wants for WoW.

you "smashed" my build by literally having same tower build as mine other than the m-atx... You changed the monitor to use those savings to "upgrade" a temporary mouse/kb and fit a siberia into his budget..
Monitor is something that should last and be used for quite some time, so why downsize an inch w/ inferior panel just to get better temporary peripherals he stated that will be replaced anyway?
Just add a siberia to my build and he's only over the budget by $27, which OP alrdy stated doesnt mind going a bit over. OP can decide if $27 is worth downsizing the monitor and having a matx mobo in the mx330 to go under.
It would be more logical to advise the OP to use those savings to get a case he prefers and a 12 button mouse, so i'd modify your build like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdq2mq



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The LG monitor is not better than the Dell. Also when did more GPU fans mean that it's better?
I'll agree that you gave him a better mouse/keyboard than the generic microsoft one i linked, but they're only temporary til OP saves up more for the 12 button mouse he needs/wants for WoW.

you "smashed" my build by literally having same tower build as mine other than the m-atx... You changed the monitor to use those savings to "upgrade" a temporary mouse/kb and fit a siberia into his budget..
Monitor is something that should last and be used for quite some time, so why downsize an inch w/ inferior panel just to get better temporary peripherals he stated that will be replaced anyway?
Just add a siberia to my build and he's only over the budget by $27, which OP alrdy stated doesnt mind going a bit over. OP can decide if $27 is worth downsizing the monitor and having a matx mobo in the mx330 to go under.
It would be more logical to advise the OP to use those savings to get a case he prefers and a 12 button mouse, so i'd modify your build like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdq2mq


Oh i like this one
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May 15 2018 05:19pm
-The gpu is dual fan, meaning better cooling and the possibility of oc'ing it, it won't have any chance of thermal throttling issues either, and lastly it's cheaper so why the fuck not?

- I'd like you to find evidence that shows your panel is far Superior. Mine has a better response rate not that it matters, but spec wise it does improve it. Also cheaper yet again.
You complain about the lose of 0.8 inches but in reality bigger isn't better with 1080p, hell even on my 23 inch monitors the pixilation bugs me so I would not go bigger by any means.
I'll admit that last part will be more a person by person thing but w/e.

- Zel's wifi adapter is literally the same shit as yours but less so I opt'd for it even if it is a dollar. You both used the same HD and RAM. I don't see how I didn't mash both of your builds
and change a few things despite what you claim.

-The Mobo being small in no way effects performance but you whine cause its aesthetically unpleasing to you. Should point out this is also zel's mobo choice not mine.

- I added added a good cheap headset that will last and went lower end on zel's keyboard and mouse cause I'd personally replace those as well.

So I struggle real hard here trying to figure out how I modified your build and didn't just combine both of yours while adding my own changes.

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Quote (King Atrhur @ 15 May 2018 16:19)
-The gpu is dual fan, meaning better cooling and the possibility of oc'ing it, it won't have any chance of thermal throttling issues either, and lastly it's cheaper so why the fuck not?

- I'd like you to find evidence that shows your panel is far Superior. Mine has a better response rate not that it matters, but spec wise it does improve it. Also cheaper yet again.
You complain about the lose of 0.8 inches but in reality bigger isn't better with 1080p, hell even on my 23 inch monitors the pixilation bugs me so I would not go bigger by any means.
I'll admit that last part will be more a person by person thing but w/e.

- Zel's wifi adapter is literally the same shit as yours but less so I opt'd for it even if it is a dollar. You both used the same HD and RAM. I don't see how I didn't mash both of your builds
and change a few things despite what you claim.

-The Mobo being small in no way effects performance but you whine cause its aesthetically unpleasing to you. Should point out this is also zel's mobo choice not mine.

- I added added a good cheap headset that will last and went lower end on zel's keyboard and mouse cause I'd personally replace those as well.

So I struggle real hard here trying to figure out how I modified your build and didn't just combine both of yours while adding my own changes.


Dell are very well known for their quality monitors, and se2416h is one of the most popular monitor choices ppl purchase. To say that monitor is a worse monitor than a rando LG monitor that's rarely purchased compared to the dell is wtf. You can tell by the overwhelming amount of reviews from verified purchased consumers, majority being satisfied with it. While the LG monitor has just a handful of review, all complaining about it being filmsy but great for the $ u pay for. However, is the $15 difference between the monitor really worth it? Just because i can't find a professional review of a rando monitor that even the reviewers feel its not worth their time to compare it with dell, doesn't mean the LG monitor is better. If it was, it'd be popular as well and selling like hotcakes which isnt the case.

maybe i should've worded it better but i really don't know how else i could word it. Let me try again,
The fact is that my tower build and your tower build are identical aside from the GPU, mobo, wifi adapter correct? This is what i was trying to explain to the OP, and im not saying u didnt use zell's parts either, just stating what the difference btwn our build is. Didn't mean to confuse you of not combining both zell and mine.
- the asus gpu is $305 + 5 shipping making it $310, and dropping it to $290 after MIR. the SC gaming is $300. A $10 difference, whether he prefers the extra fan with the difference of dealing with Asus support vs EVGA's support is up to him.
- Theres ton of atx cases that i've put in with matx mobo, which doesn't bother me. However, mx330 is one of those cases that bothered me enough to mention it, just like i would if i was gonna advise a m-atx mobo in a fractal r4 case. Maybe it sounds like im whining, but im just telling it how it is so the OP doesn't get any surprises. Im also not arguing having smaller mobo has any effect in performance, so idk why u'd even mention that.
- wifi same shit, we agree
with these "differences" in parts, we can agree that it's ultimately the same shit. the major difference is the m-atx mobo and the atx mobo which doesnt mean shit for performance wise, other than my whining.
Now the confusing part for me is that, i didn't trim the costs because of the reasons above and personally didn't have anything else to upgrade for significant change in performance. You trimmed the cost because you wanted to upgrade his temporary peripherals that he will be replacing




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May 17 2018 08:24am
So far reading through reviews {first 5 pages} of your monitor the issues people have presented are as followed..

~ plug tends to slip out from panel.
~ super glossy screen <huge negative for me
~ no stand adustments
~ colours look faded and dull.. Blacks appear grey <another huge negative for me
~ no vespa mounts.

The only complaints about my monitor are strickly the stand being a tad flimsy. But none complain about the panel itself.

So is it really worth the extra money and is it really as great as you claim..


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May 17 2018 07:26pm
So whos build is more viable O.o
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Quote (IVIoNsTeR @ May 17 2018 08:26pm)
So whos build is more viable O.o


you have to decide, were just bickering at this point.
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Ah ok lol, hmm
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Quote (King Atrhur @ 17 May 2018 07:24)
So far reading through reviews {first 5 pages} of your monitor the issues people have presented are as followed..

~ plug tends to slip out from panel.
~ super glossy screen <huge negative for me
~ no stand adustments
~ colours look faded and dull.. Blacks appear grey <another huge negative for me
~ no vespa mounts.

The only complaints about my monitor are strickly the stand being a tad flimsy. But none complain about the panel itself.

So is it really worth the extra money and is it really as great as you claim..


i mean, if you're basing it off like 15 reviews total from amazon/newegg verified owners and feel that monitor is still better than dell known for their monitors & reviews with over 300+ majority being satisfied then i guess we can agree to disagree.
"tad filmsy" should be something to note when majority of the consumers all mention that it's filmsy regardless of being a positive or negative review.
I'm still confused why the OP should cut cost only to use those "savings" to upgrade a temporary mouse/keyboard he will shortly replace.


Quote (IVIoNsTeR @ 17 May 2018 18:26)
So whos build is more viable O.o


ull need a new build since it's been over couple days, prices change often so you won't get the best deals. For example, the dell monitor is $150 now and ram prices etc.
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