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Dec 13 2016 11:39am
Quote (Z97 @ Dec 13 2016 01:30pm)
Negative.

And if someone has to explain what the two different modules do then why is everyone recommending them?

Both Gysnc and Freesync are designed to smooth out game play for when those times your FPS randomly drops so that your game play doesn't feel like it was interrupted.

Conclusions:

Is 144 worth it at the current price point? Hell no
Is gsync/freesync worth the cost? Yes
Buy a low latency monitor.


if he can afford it whynot get a 1440p 144hz Freesync monitor?

i mean its within his reach.

he can just ditch the freesync and 1440p and go 144hz 1ms only

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044761-REG/aoc_g2460pqu_24_144hz_ultra_fast.html 230$ cant beat that

i mean he could stick with a 24 inch 1ms i guess still 60hz



This post was edited by serialj0e on Dec 13 2016 11:48am
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Quote (serialj0e @ Dec 13 2016 12:39pm)
if he can afford it whynot get a 1440p 144hz Freesync monitor?

i mean its within his reach.

he can just ditch the freesync and 1440p and go 144hz 1ms only

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044761-REG/aoc_g2460pqu_24_144hz_ultra_fast.html 230$ cant beat that


that's on backorder and $40 more than the acer 144hz 1ms 1080p i posted
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Dec 13 2016 11:43am
freesync dont cost more thats the "free" part about it

also hz>sync>colors
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Quote (BluntsGLI @ Dec 13 2016 01:42pm)
that's on backorder and $40 more than the acer 144hz 1ms 1080p i posted


also got this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-value-23-6-lcd-hd-monitor-black/9272228.p?skuId=9272228&ref=199&loc=8BacdVP0GFs&acampID=1&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-MDFhM4MT.TsWbjqIB2uSiQ

135$ if dont need the 144hz good 1ms panel for the price

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Dec 13 2016 04:38pm
all i can say is,

Once you go with 144hz, its hard to go back to 60hz.

144hz worth.


From what ive heard 27 inches at 1080p starts to look ugly and stretched.



This post was edited by PartyPete on Dec 13 2016 04:42pm
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Quote (PartyPete @ Dec 13 2016 06:38pm)
all i can say is,

Once you go with 144hz, its hard to go back to 60hz.

144hz worth.


From what ive heard 27 inches at 1080p starts to look ugly and stretched.


its stretched ive seen it depends on panel not all look bad once u calibrate it.

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Quote (serialj0e @ Dec 13 2016 02:46pm)
its stretched ive seen it depends on panel not all look bad once u calibrate it.


Joe.. Please just stop.


Calibration has NOTHING to do with resolution, 1080p on 27"+ Will always look stretched even if you 'calibrate' it.


Quote (PartyPete @ Dec 13 2016 02:38pm)
all i can say is,

Once you go with 144hz, its hard to go back to 60hz.

144hz worth.


From what ive heard 27 inches at 1080p starts to look ugly and stretched.


I agree, Some people seem to not notice the difference between 60-144hz. I'm not quite sure how.. As it seems painfully obvious to me.

Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 13 2016 09:43am)
freesync dont cost more thats the "free" part about it

also hz>sync>colors


That's about the only thing freesync has that one-ups g-sync is the fact its 'free'.

Other than that, Gsync is better in almost every way.

Quote (serialj0e @ Dec 13 2016 09:39am)
if he can afford it whynot get a 1440p 144hz Freesync monitor?

i mean its within his reach.

he can just ditch the freesync and 1440p and go 144hz 1ms only

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044761-REG/aoc_g2460pqu_24_144hz_ultra_fast.html 230$ cant beat that

i mean he could stick with a 24 inch 1ms i guess still 60hz


Because he cant power 1440p @ 144hz on a 200 series GPU, Even in xfire it would have issues.


Quote (serialj0e @ Dec 13 2016 08:08am)
have you ever used freesync makes a big difference lol.


Have you?

Quote (Incendiary @ Dec 13 2016 08:13am)
Not in CS:GO..? It stops tearing when your framerate fluctuates. Assuming this guy can actually maintain a solid 144 fps, it shouldn't matter.


Pretty much this. If you're playing a game you can easily maintain max fps in.. You're better off using ULMB or etc. Due to less ghosting/blur/etc.


Quote (Z97 @ Dec 13 2016 08:15am)
You don't NEED 144 hz.What you do need if you want to play competitively is a low response time.


Response & refresh rate are linked, They both reduce ghosting/blur. While I don't personally believe 144hz will make you a '1337 g4mer', It does actually help.
I know you think higher refresh rate is a gimmick, But it really isn't.

Quote (BluntsGLI @ Dec 13 2016 08:21am)
he'll be getting like 300+ fps in CS:GO

what difference does freesync make on a 144hz? I've had my 144hz monitor for over a year now and I've never used vsync on it once, playing like 30 different games and I've never seen my screen tear once.

When I used to game on my 60hz monitor it was a totally different story tho.



you NEED it bro


The benefit of G/Free-sync is it smooths out the game play if you can't manage to maintain max FPS all the time. So a game like crysis 3 maxed out running a range of 80-144hz, Wont look like shit when the framerate flutuates all over the place.

Quote (serialj0e @ Dec 13 2016 09:14am)
hmm good point im just saying in my experience 144hz 1ms are better than just ur standard 60hz. also 144hz will make sure no screentearing or alot less anyways.


That's not how screentear works.

Tearing occurs when the monitor is partially through refreshing a frame, When a new frame is loaded. So the top of one frame.. is combined with the lower part of another frame. causing things to be out of alignment.

Vsync forces the framerate to match the refresh rate of the monitor, Or makes it a multiple of the refresh rate if it cant manage the full framerate.

G/Free-sync does the opposite & Changes the refresh rate to manage your framerate.

Quote (Incendiary @ Dec 13 2016 09:37am)
GSync tax ain't worth it imo.


I think it is. However it is a 'luxury' item. Something that isn't absolutely necessary. Just like a 'themed' PC build.

This post was edited by Rikuo on Dec 13 2016 06:37pm
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I agree, Some people seem to not notice the difference between 60-144hz. I'm not quite sure how.. As it seems painfully obvious to me.


It's not as big of a difference as most make it out to be.

Sure turn vsync off on a 60 hz panel and sure you can see the difference of how it transitions on the screen but in terms of an actual 60 HZ vs 144 HZ then the smoothness doesn't exactly look that much better.

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It's not as big of a difference as most make it out to be.

Sure turn vsync off on a 60 hz panel and sure you can see the difference of how it transitions on the screen but in terms of an actual 60 HZ vs 144 HZ then the smoothness doesn't exactly look that much better.

Response time>



The majority of people who've used a 144hz monitor disagree with you. Like I said, It's not going to make you a pro gamer... But the difference is there.
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Quote (Rikuo @ Dec 13 2016 08:27pm)
Joe.. Please just stop.


Calibration has NOTHING to do with resolution, 1080p on 27"+ Will always look stretched even if you 'calibrate' it.




I agree, Some people seem to not notice the difference between 60-144hz. I'm not quite sure how.. As it seems painfully obvious to me.



That's about the only thing freesync has that one-ups g-sync is the fact its 'free'.

Other than that, Gsync is better in almost every way.



Because he cant power 1440p @ 144hz on a 200 series GPU, Even in xfire it would have issues.




Have you?



Pretty much this. If you're playing a game you can easily maintain max fps in.. You're better off using ULMB or etc. Due to less ghosting/blur/etc.




Response & refresh rate are linked, They both reduce ghosting/blur. While I don't personally believe 144hz will make you a '1337 g4mer', It does actually help.
I know you think higher refresh rate is a gimmick, But it really isn't.



The benefit of G/Free-sync is it smooths out the game play if you can't manage to maintain max FPS all the time. So a game like crysis 3 maxed out running a range of 80-144hz, Wont look like shit when the framerate flutuates all over the place.



That's not how screentear works.

Tearing occurs when the monitor is partially through refreshing a frame, When a new frame is loaded. So the top of one frame.. is combined with the lower part of another frame. causing things to be out of alignment.

Vsync forces the framerate to match the refresh rate of the monitor, Or makes it a multiple of the refresh rate if it cant manage the full framerate.

G/Free-sync does the opposite & Changes the refresh rate to manage your framerate.



I think it is. However it is a 'luxury' item. Something that isn't absolutely necessary. Just like a 'themed' PC build.


im talking from my experience i may be off about the stretched image thing ive owned a 27 inch benq 144hz wasnt that bad once i got the optimal settings.

and yes i own a asus freesync 144hz seems different than straight up 144hz and obviously i misunderstood the screen tearing thing.

never said i was a panel specialist.



This post was edited by serialj0e on Dec 13 2016 06:44pm
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