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Quote (pauldesilets @ Sep 3 2016 02:56pm)
so coming in at a 1000 bucks, would this be the best computer i could build. I chose a new case and the OS so can someone check to see if those will work please.


Some parts could be changed but overall i feel like for 1,000$ this is probably the best PC you could build.
I'd personnally get an EVGA PSU and another case but that's just me.

Also the 1060 is the best bang for the buck GPU right now on the market, so anyone telling you not to go with it is a baddies :P
Unless you want to wait for a 1050, 1060 is the way to go.
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Would cost a little more but i'd suggest that
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pKBVwV


So, 90 dollar more for the same performance? :rolleyes:

For a temperature or two, the h212 is gonna be much more worth it.
Same thing goes with SSD.
RAM is cas 15, the once I picked was 14.

The case I choose was just my own preferation under 50 dollar because of the looks of it. There's better performers for the same price out there, and even lower priced cases which u should look into.
However, cases is very much about the looks. I wouldn't like to have something looking like a spaceship in my living room for example, better have a discrete thing under the table without leds


Quote (pauldesilets @ 3 Sep 2016 21:56)
so coming in at a 1000 bucks, would this be the best computer i could build. I chose a new case and the OS so can someone check to see if those will work please.


Get w10.

Win7 is atm the best one IMO, but w10 will be better with time, hopefully :)
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Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 01:14pm)
So, 90 dollar more for the same performance? :rolleyes:

For a temperature or two, the h212 is gonna be much more worth it.
Same thing goes with SSD.
RAM is cas 15, the once I picked was 14.

The case I choose was just my own preferation under 50 dollar because of the looks of it. There's better performers for the same price out there, and even lower priced cases which u should look into.
However, cases is very much about the looks. I wouldn't like to have something looking like a spaceship in my living room for example, better have a discrete thing under the table without leds




Get w10.

Win7 is atm the best one IMO, but w10 will be better with time, hopefully :)


id much rather have windows 7 also, wasnt sure about it though. so windows 7 64b is a good choice also?
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Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 03:14pm)
So, 90 dollar more for the same performance? :rolleyes:

For a temperature or two, the h212 is gonna be much more worth it.
Same thing goes with SSD.
RAM is cas 15, the once I picked was 14.

The case I choose was just my own preferation under 50 dollar because of the looks of it. There's better performers for the same price out there, and even lower priced cases which u should look into.
However, cases is very much about the looks. I wouldn't like to have something looking like a spaceship in my living room for example, better have a discrete thing under the table without leds


Cas 15 vs cas 14 is useless for what he's going to do.
My setup was 16GB ram vs 8GB yours.

Imo Samsung 850 is much better than AData
and H60 look much better and make for a cleaner PC than the CM 212, performance wise they are both bad CPU cooler so either one won't make a huge difference.

It's just my personnal preference tought,not saying what i picked is best, i'd just personally pick that.
You can always go cheaper for same performance, but at some point you'll either bottleneck or have bad longevity imo.


Also with the money i'd just save some more and buy this instead :
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3QRW4C

Better Mobo with m.2 slot, Better HDD, Better 1060, Different case, 750 watt psu for the future when/if he decide to SLI

Quote (pauldesilets @ Sep 3 2016 03:20pm)
id much rather have windows 7 also, wasnt sure about it though. so windows 7 64b is a good choice also?


Get Windows 10, 64 bit.

This post was edited by R0cktaze on Sep 3 2016 02:29pm
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You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about

This post was edited by ChingeR on Sep 3 2016 04:05pm
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Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 04:51pm)
You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about


Nice argument

Reminded me of
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Quote (R0cktaze @ 4 Sep 2016 00:00)
Nice argument

Reminded me of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgCgnLl8k8



Quote (R0cktaze @ 3 Sep 2016 22:25)
Cas 15 vs cas 14 is useless for what he's going to do.
My setup was 16GB ram vs 8GB yours.


afterall, Ram is Ram, but lower cas would be better ;)

Quote (R0cktaze @ 3 Sep 2016 22:25)
Imo Samsung 850 is much better than AData
and H60 look much better and make for a cleaner PC than the CM 212, performance wise they are both bad CPU cooler so either one won't make a huge difference.


H60 doesn't do well together with SSD's due to the fact that failure rate of SSD's gets higher because of temperature, and as I hope we both know, the h60 doesn't move air inside the chassi, which means, higher heat inside the case which could cause a higher failure rate.
Therefore, your choice of h60 + more expensive SSD is in vain. There's no extra fans on the case itself to help dissipate heat.


Quote (R0cktaze @ 3 Sep 2016 22:25)
It's just my personnal preference tought,not saying what i picked is best, i'd just personally pick that.
You can always go cheaper for same performance, but at some point you'll either bottleneck or have bad longevity imo.


So far, only bad choices m8

Quote (R0cktaze @ 3 Sep 2016 22:25)
Also with the money i'd just save some more and buy this instead :
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3QRW4C

Better Mobo with m.2 slot, Better HDD, Better 1060, Different case, 750 watt psu for the future when/if he decide to SLI


So, you want him to SLI gtx 1060?
GL. Also the 750w psu will be worse over time, and in the end, when it _would have_ been time for SLI, in the end the choice of PSU I made would give the very same outcome, if not better than the the psu you recommended.
However, my psu of choice here is only 2 6+2 chords, and would definately have taken something more expensive. But hey, look at the price difference for the same performance we did. He could fit in a decent monitor to reach up to the value of your chassi, which would be far better

This post was edited by ChingeR on Sep 3 2016 04:04pm
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Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 05:04pm)
afterall, Ram is Ram, but lower cas would be better ;)


16GB RAM for 65$ instead of 8GB for 40$ is better and future proof.
As long as you go with 2133hz + you go with the cheaper one or the one in special, he's not planning on doing Massive Overclock or render 4k video at all time so the 14 vs 15 cas time doesn't matter at all.



Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 05:04pm)
H60 doesn't do well together with SSD's due to the fact that failure rate of SSD's gets higher because of temperature, and as I hope we both know, the h60 doesn't move air inside the chassi, which means, higher heat inside the case which could cause a higher failure rate.
Therefore, your choice of h60 + more expensive SSD is in vain. There's no extra fans on the case itself to help dissipate heat.


H60 use 1 fan, meaning that you still have 4 fan in the case to move air.
Maybe those Adata will burn under 4 case fan but i can guarantee you the Samsung will be fine.
I know plenty of people with SSD in prebuilt dell business computer with only stock fan and they all work like a charm.
This could of been a problem 5 years ago but it's not anymore



Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 05:04pm)
So far, only bad choices m8

Nice argument again.



Quote (ChingeR @ Sep 3 2016 05:04pm)
So, you want him to SLI gtx 1060?
GL. Also the 750w psu will be worse over time, and in the end, when it _would have_ been time for SLI, in the end the choice of PSU I made would give the very same outcome, if not better than the the psu you recommended.
However, my psu of choice here is only 2 6+2 chords, and would definately have taken something more expensive. But hey, look at the price difference for the same performance we did. He could fit in a decent monitor to reach up to the value of your chassi, which would be far better


What's your point?
You want him to buy the cheapest 1060 + 550 watt power supply for 335$ while i offer him a good 1060 + 750 watt psu for 65$ more.
Than when he decide in 2-3 years to update, he can buy another 1060 and sli them for real cheap.
While the only option you're giving him right now is to change card entirely, right?
I'm pretty sure most people want build that will be ''Time proof'', most people want possibility to upgrade in the future without spending the big bucks/changing everything.



Again this is my opinion and you're not obligated to agree with it.
But don't try to make me look bad without real arguments.

We won't come to an agreement it seem's and it's totally up to buyer to buy whatever he's most comfortable with.
My 2 cents, i'm out of this topic.

This post was edited by R0cktaze on Sep 3 2016 04:25pm
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16GB RAM for 65$ instead of 8GB for 40$ is better and future proof.
As long as you go with 2133hz + you go with the cheaper one or the one in special, he's not planning on doing Massive Overclock or render 4k video at all time so the 14 vs 15 cas time doesn't matter at all.





H60 use 1 fan, meaning that you still have 4 fan in the case to move air.
Maybe those Adata will burn under 4 case fan but i can guarantee you the Samsung will be fine.
I know plenty of people with SSD in prebuilt dell business computer with only stock fan and they all work like a charm.
This could of been a problem 5 years ago but it's not anymore




Nice argument again.





What's your point?
You want him to buy the cheapest 1060 + 550 watt power supply for 335$ while i offer him a good 1060 + 750 watt psu for 65$ more.
Than when he decide in 2-3 years to update, he can buy another 1060 and sli them for real cheap.
While the only option you're giving him right now is to change card entirely, right?
I'm pretty sure most people want build that will be ''Time proof'', most people want possibility to upgrade in the future without spending the big bucks/changing everything.



Again this is my opinion and you're not obligated to agree with it.
But don't try to make me look bad without real arguments.

We won't come to an agreement it seem's and it's totally up to buyer to buy whatever he's most comfortable with.
My 2 cents, i'm out of this topic.


Yet again your ignorance and giving bad advise is showing.


Gl 1060 sli, were both giving him the advise to change card entirely. Bed time gn8


Wont answer the rest, but u clearly dont know about the h60 fan setup

This post was edited by ChingeR on Sep 3 2016 04:32pm
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Quote (Ghot @ Sep 1 2016 11:57pm)
Monitor is definitely better than a TV screen. Imagine a 1920 x 1080 32" TV and a 1920 x 1080 24" monitor. They both have the same resolution, the same amount of pixels. Can you see how the monitor will have a better picture...sharper?


Anyways...I don't know if you have reusable parts from your current computer, but I finished of your build for you...

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VvDsLD


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