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Feb 27 2016 04:33am
also is this case worth it

i am just looking for best case to fit everything in it and have enough space to add another card if needed


i looked at the fractal r5 and to fit the water cooling radiator on top its a tight fit

since i dont know shit about cases i went for 780t because it spacious and good airflow

hopefully its silent
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Feb 27 2016 04:52am
Quote (Booyaka @ Feb 27 2016 05:33am)
also is this case worth it

i am just looking for best case to fit everything in it and have enough space to add another card if needed


i looked at the fractal r5 and to fit the water cooling radiator on top its a tight fit

since i dont know shit about cases i went for 780t because it spacious and good airflow

hopefully its silent


its a nice looking case, should have more than enough space.

this one is a bit cheaper, one pic actually shows the h110gtx installed in the case.. so you can see how much space there will be.. side window, top exhaust, usb 2.0/3.0 on face etc.. only thing i'd do is swap out the fans for higher airflow and lower db

http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-obsidian-series-750d-airflow-fc-110329.htm

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/wNRTXL
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Feb 27 2016 04:54am
As for the case you only have to check if it supports the radiators you want to use. Besides that you can pick any case you like.
My all time favourite is the air 540 (the white version), but everybody has his own preferences.
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Mar 1 2016 09:47am
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/CWQKyc
Total: $2821.88 ($235 cheaper)
The money you save can be used elsewhere if you don't care about it.

-I changed the water cooled cpu heatsink to a Corsair H100i GTX instead, because this all you need and costs $20 less.
You might be able to get an extra 100-200MHz more from your overclock but it's not worth the extra cost and noise in your system.
-I changed the motherboard to an MSI Gaming M7 board, which will suit your build better and costs the same.
-I changed the ram to the exact same one except for the red skin instead of black and it's $25 cheaper.
-I changed your SSD's to 2x250GB instead of just one 500GB SSD. It is $30 (18.5%) more expensive but you can set it up in RAID 0 and you will get double the speeds.
-I changed the HDD to a Seagate Barracuda 2TB instead of a Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB, it is $7 cheaper and double the space. Speed difference is negligible they are basically the same.
The WD Black has better 4k read/write but this is something you should never notice at all, anything that requires fast 4k reads and writes should be on your SSD's anyways.
The WD Black is not worth the money you spend on it, it would be better to get a 250GB SSD then spend the money on it, it's just a premium you spend on the name.
Stress test your drives out of the box and make sure they perform as expected out of the box and it should be fine.
-I kept the same Video Card, as if you are going to get a watercooled gfx card it is a great choice and not many too choose from, only one other.
-I changed the case to a NZXT H440 (Black/Red), it will suit the Red and Black them with your motherboard and ram. It is also $85 cheaper.
You are over spending on your Case, you can get very nice cases and spend way less, you are just paying premiums for unnecessary things.
And honestly, the NZXT H440 looks nicer and has 3x120mm(front) and 1x140mm(back) included. It's also a silent case.
The 780T has 3 fans included as well, you don't need to spend an extra $100 on fans, the cooling in your system will be negligible not worth the $100 your spending.
-Changed the PSU to a Corsair HX1000i, it is a better PSU and costs $20 less as well.
-You don't need an Optical drive, it is completely useless. Last time I used the one I have is over 3yrs ago and I have a Blue Ray Drive/Burner.
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Mar 1 2016 11:55am
Quote (Fr3nChi @ 1 Mar 2016 10:47)
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/CWQKyc
Total: $2821.88 ($235 cheaper)
The money you save can be used elsewhere if you don't care about it.

-I changed the water cooled cpu heatsink to a Corsair H100i GTX instead, because this all you need and costs $20 less.
You might be able to get an extra 100-200MHz more from your overclock but it's not worth the extra cost and noise in your system.
-I changed the motherboard to an MSI Gaming M7 board, which will suit your build better and costs the same.
-I changed the ram to the exact same one except for the red skin instead of black and it's $25 cheaper.
-I changed your SSD's to 2x250GB instead of just one 500GB SSD. It is $30 (18.5%) more expensive but you can set it up in RAID 0 and you will get double the speeds.
-I changed the HDD to a Seagate Barracuda 2TB instead of a Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB, it is $7 cheaper and double the space. Speed difference is negligible they are basically the same.
The WD Black has better 4k read/write but this is something you should never notice at all, anything that requires fast 4k reads and writes should be on your SSD's anyways.
The WD Black is not worth the money you spend on it, it would be better to get a 250GB SSD then spend the money on it, it's just a premium you spend on the name.
Stress test your drives out of the box and make sure they perform as expected out of the box and it should be fine.
-I kept the same Video Card, as if you are going to get a watercooled gfx card it is a great choice and not many too choose from, only one other.
-I changed the case to a NZXT H440 (Black/Red), it will suit the Red and Black them with your motherboard and ram. It is also $85 cheaper.
You are over spending on your Case, you can get very nice cases and spend way less, you are just paying premiums for unnecessary things.
And honestly, the NZXT H440 looks nicer and has 3x120mm(front) and 1x140mm(back) included. It's also a silent case.
The 780T has 3 fans included as well, you don't need to spend an extra $100 on fans, the cooling in your system will be negligible not worth the $100 your spending.
-Changed the PSU to a Corsair HX1000i, it is a better PSU and costs $20 less as well.
-You don't need an Optical drive, it is completely useless. Last time I used the one I have is over 3yrs ago and I have a Blue Ray Drive/Burner.



thats the build i am buying in march the old 1 i scrapped it

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/keyvax/saved/#view=mBgG3C

basicly same price as the 1 u built

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Mar 2 2016 04:41am
Quote (Booyaka @ Mar 1 2016 09:55am)
thats the build i am buying in march the old 1 i scrapped it

[URL=http://pcpartpicker.com/user/keyvax/saved/#view=mBgG3C]http://pcpartpicker.com/user/keyvax/saved/#view=mBgG3C[/URL]

basicly same price as the 1 u built


Yes, this is a response to your new build which is still $117 cheaper.
Also, did you read what I wrote?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/YPfD6h
Here, since you went with a lower Wattage PSU, which is a good idea.
Total: $2743.60 ($195 cheaper and better) - Read what I wrote except the PSU part.
750D is a nice case but you are still spending an unnecessary extra $45, unless you plan to do a custom water loop.
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Mar 2 2016 05:18am
Quote (Fr3nChi @ Mar 2 2016 11:41am)
Also, did you read what I wrote?


Maybe he is simply smart enough to realize on his own that half of what you write is bullshit (SSD RAID 0 for example)
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Mar 2 2016 05:30am
Quote (Booyaka @ Feb 27 2016 01:09pm)
should i just fkin get a 5930k mobo with a x99 but it will cost almost 400-500$ more

i dont know if its even worth it to spend 500$ more

For your information, 5930K is almost never worth it. 5930K is the same as 5820K but with more lanes, which only matters with a fuckton of bandwidth intensive expansion cards, like multi-GPU system with multiple RAID cards etc.

5820K costs only $40~ more (depending on the country), and the X99 mobos start from around $200 whereas most of the high performance Z170 boards people are looking at hover around $160.

Paying 400-500 dollars more for low benefit is something we'd obviously advice against. And for CPU's, it's really hard to tell where Intel is going in the following years, as their schedules have moved further into the future and the IPC gains per generation have not compensated their slower release cycle. As for AMD... I do not have major expectations for their product to be groundbreaking.

If I were to make an educated guess, you would not be upgrading your CPU in 3-4 years, unless you were to take a step from 720p60 streaming to some format of the future, like 1440p60. This is regardless whether you'd get i7 6700K or 5820K.

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Quote (Fr3nChi @ Mar 1 2016 06:47pm)
And honestly, the NZXT H440 looks nicer and has 3x120mm(front) and 1x140mm(back) included. It's also a silent case.

By the way, H440 isn't all that silent when compared to it's biggest competitor, the Fractal Design R5 :)

This post was edited by nexcoor on Mar 2 2016 05:35am
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Mar 2 2016 02:27pm
Quote (maulepan @ Mar 2 2016 03:18am)
Maybe he is simply smart enough to realize on his own that half of what you write is bullshit (SSD RAID 0 for example)

How is that bullshit, do you even know what RAID is, read up on it before you say it's bullshit.


Quote (nexcoor @ Mar 2 2016 03:30am)
For your information, 5930K is almost never worth it. 5930K is the same as 5820K but with more lanes, which only matters with a fuckton of bandwidth intensive expansion cards, like multi-GPU system with multiple RAID cards etc.

5820K costs only $40~ more (depending on the country), and the X99 mobos start from around $200 whereas most of the high performance Z170 boards people are looking at hover around $160.

Paying 400-500 dollars more for low benefit is something we'd obviously advice against. And for CPU's, it's really hard to tell where Intel is going in the following years, as their schedules have moved further into the future and the IPC gains per generation have not compensated their slower release cycle. As for AMD... I do not have major expectations for their product to be groundbreaking.

If I were to make an educated guess, you would not be upgrading your CPU in 3-4 years, unless you were to take a step from 720p60 streaming to some format of the future, like 1440p60. This is regardless whether you'd get i7 6700K or 5820K.

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By the way, H440 isn't all that silent when compared to it's biggest competitor, the Fractal Design R5 :)

The 6700K is about 15% faster overall and already has 8 threads instead of 12. Nothing he would throw at it would even use 12 threads unless he does a lot of video editing.
So it is better for him to get the 6700K so no point to spend more money for a slower CPU, as of now the 6700K is the best gaming CPU on the market.
And lastly, the H440 windowed is actually rated quieter then the R5 windowed.
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Mar 4 2016 09:00am
Quote (Fr3nChi @ Mar 2 2016 11:27pm)
The 6700K is about 15% faster overall and already has 8 threads instead of 12. Nothing he would throw at it would even use 12 threads unless he does a lot of video editing.

U wot m8

This post was edited by nexcoor on Mar 4 2016 09:01am
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