i keep seeing posts like this, but you cant build one thats much better if at all for the price, all you can do offer lame rationales and suspicions that they must be using shoddy parts, which is contrary to every single review and bit of feedback on newegg, not one even partially negative review.



Maulepan

i found a copy of windows 7 product key for 25$, are u guys certain i can do a clean install of windows 10, and this windows 7 key will activate it. Also, because of how cheap it is, its hard for me to believe its the real thing, so for a minute, lets assume i get some crap because i wanted the cheap way out, what happens if i try to install windows 10, and that windows 7 key doesnt work, ill end up with no OS until i pay 100$ for the windows 10?


ive spent the last few hours comparing that i3/750ti build against the ibuypower one and another lenovo one, and theyre all so close its hard to tell, the one u put togetheron pcpartpicker outperforms the lenovo in every category, and it also outperforms the ibuypower one in a few, i mean the ssd is obviously better than the mechanical drive, the mobo and ddr4 are better than what the ibuy has. the i3 while a little slower than that 8core amd monster, still performs well enough under my circumstances that it doesnt matter, and even outperforms it sometimes(it only loses by a real margin when it comes to multi process stuff, or running lots of programs, the i3 is a steal at 125$, and i already feel like i trust intel a little more), its also newer which i guess has benefits to power consumption and heat. the 750ti sc loses to the 950 but not by enough that i care, and ur build more than makes up for those losses with the ssd and the better ram/mobo/newer cpu, and probably better case and psu.


all that said, the last real concern is once i get all those pieces, i need to have an OS, and thats the 100 bucks that will put ur build so far over the prebuilt pcs that it will be hard for me to do once i consider i could screw something up, and i wont be getting any free keyboards or w/e, i mean that extra 100 bucks is a bit of problem for me since i will still ahve to buy a new keyboard/mouse and a new monitor. So i need to be 100$ sure i can activate taht windows 10 or at least use the windows 10 until i can find a product key to work. That, or i need to find a way to do taht same thing, but install the cheaper windows 7 from usb. Keep in mind im running XP at the moment, so i dont have access to any free upgrade stuff or anything like that at the moment. The best deal ive come accross so far is i can buy a windows 7 product key, and i think i can use that to download an ISO of windows 7 to install on the new pc, assuming that same key wont activate windows 10.

If you guys could be a bit mroe clear on this or offer a link with these 20$ online windows 7 keys that will activate a copy of windows 10 i download for free, i would appreciate it because googling this kidn of thing reels in all kinds of crap and i dont wanna get scammed by some chinese company or other shady people.

Keep in mind that an I3 and 750Ti are on thr minimum system requirements for Overwatch. Unless you plan to play on low settings it will have issues.

FPS games play much better at higher frames than at lower. When I played BF4 we always played at lower resolutions to increase frames for better gameplay. There is a noticeable difference between 60 FPS and 100+. While maulepans build isn't bad, you'll be spending more to pgrade if you decide to play newer AAA titles.

In some instannces, it's better to save more money to get a better system that will last much longer without needing to upgrade too much.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NQ2Lt6

Here's my choice. If need be you can upgrade to an FX 8320 later for a little more performance. GPU will handle most games you throw at it. SSD for boot. Also, a little towards the higher end of your budget but has room for upgrading without too much more.

This post was edited by Deny on Feb 2 2016 09:47pm

Why would you buy that POS....

But if you do please change the power supply out before your room catches fire.

I appreicate the thought, but I was actually thinking of spending less now... Ive seen a video of basically this: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blunderwonder2/saved/GCFv6h which i just put together on pcpartpicker, running bf4 on ultra at 60fps... and i dont plan on playing crazy new games, idk if ill get overwatch but if that pc cant run it i dont really know who theyre marketing too cause im not buying a 2000$ computer to play a 100$ game... its insane. Im not an enthusiast just looking for value here



That said... what advantages do i really get by not buying the cheapest mobo i can get, or the cheapest case i can get, i dont wanna take chances with the psu, but im not really looking to upgrade anythign but the graphics card in the future, and even that is a big maybe. By the time im doing that ill be thinking about just buying another 400-500$ pc?

Thing is the more i read about this stuff, the more it seems for most games its just the graphics cards where things get bottlenecked( at least in the things ive read on other sites, and they seem like knowledgeable people), and the 750 ti seems fine for almost any game id play. At this pt im about read to say fk 125$ i3, and just go with the g3258 and save 60 bucks, i dont do any video editting, and i dont plan to have 50 programs running in the backround, in fact i plan to turn 1/2 of the windows processes to manual, and run nothing but ts + game, maybe have chrome in the backround at most.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blunderwonder2/saved/GCFv6h this is i think what i would buy, sure id like an i3, id like an i7 too... but for the price its not worth it for me cause i dont think its needed at all - if im being an idiot here with this line of thinking, PLEASE tell me... but every game review i look up that uses this g3258 seems to be fine. That pc comes in at a whopping 390$? its cheap and it works, if it can run league on high settings, maybe stream at some pt with league of medium settings and play CSGO, i think thats the deal of the century. And if i can get windows 7 for 20 bucks.... i think im in heaven.

just get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ynqcf
reuse ur 123813 hdd, ancient extinct optical drive, etc.

forgot to mention,
if u really think 750ti will suffice for u,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
save more $$$

This post was edited by Secksii on Feb 2 2016 10:43pm

This is your best deal.

Well... I think im gonna sleep on this, i guess i could save 60 bucks by using the hdd i have now and another 15 by reusing one my cd drives, but i kinda want the ssd now, and reusing the hdd will mean i cant boot this pc if i have problems with the new one.

The biggest question for me at this point is why not go with g3258 instead of the i3 6100 or that i5 4460, as for the video card i think im gonna stick with the 750 ti.

Mostly ill be running leauge, with probaby a bit of CSGO, and it doenst seem like anyone has ANY problems using the g3258 or the 750 ti, and they come significantly cheaper than the alternatives. ive been reading some stuff about newer titles requireing more cores or something, so that maybe amd 6300 or whatever it was might be a better deal than the 3258 when it comes to running new titles at low settings, but for running league and browsing the web, streaming some movies and csgo, i cant see the point in spending 110$ more for that i5... or 65$ more for the i3, when it will make little to no impact with regards to fps, same goes for minimal improvment on my graphics with a 40$ more expensive video card, i dont think the games ill actually play are that demanding.


Im not being argumentative for no reason, i just feel like i needed to clarify what i was going to use this for.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blunderwonder2/saved/GCFv6h i mean for ~400, itll do everything i want, alot better than i need it to, at least according to the videos on youtube. toss in apparently 20 bucks for windows, i can reuse a dvd drive, and thats entire the thing for 390$ I can use the leftover money to buy a nice mouse i guess lol...

if anyone can give me good cause as to why this is not a good idea, i really would like to understand this stuff a little better before i commit.

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 2 2016 11:13pm

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jcJXxr

I would do something more along the lines of this

reuse HDD + Optical Drive
upgrade CPU to 4690k + 212 evo
upgrade psu
upgrade gfx card

all in that order

this is basically what i have tho no?

i mean i dont need to reuse the hd if im buying a ssd, im never gonna come even close to using 120 gigs, much less 240. I have 4 optical drives already so thats not necessary. But u have the same processor in there that i have, an that video card is marginally better for the things ill use it for, if im goign to run one of those supr new games, id either have to run them on really low and performance mode or whatever, or upgrade the cpu/gpu anyway so thats a long ways down the road if at all. Why the different video card and more expensive mobo?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blunderwonder2/saved/GCFv6h the mobo thats in there, from what i unerstand will upgrade to an i5 or whatever, and its supposed to allow me to OC the 3258 if i want to without any fuss

can you explain the changes? also idk wat the 212 evo is but ill figure it out i guess

More expensive mobo for when u upgrade ur CPU to 4690k (a cpu recommended for even some 1k builds, will come down in price depending on when you upgrade to it )
Hyper 212 evo would be for the 4690k when u get it, its a CPU cooler for like $30

This post was edited by Penguins0690 on Feb 3 2016 12:55am