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Dec 20 2014 08:25pm
Quote (Bankai @ Dec 20 2014 08:36pm)
performs the same and/or better, looks better, only slightly more expensive.


Gotcha, thanks. I read mixed reviews on Google. Some said it performs better, other said it performs the same, if not better. I'm on a budget so I figured the 212 Evo would be a good choice.

I also read my mobo has a poor thermal design which = no overclocking. Not that I'm going to overclock anyways :P.

Lastly, can I use any 120mm fan for push-pull configuration on the 212 Evo?
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Dec 20 2014 10:25pm
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Gotcha, thanks. I read mixed reviews on Google. Some said it performs better, other said it performs the same, if not better. I'm on a budget so I figured the 212 Evo would be a good choice.

I also read my mobo has a poor thermal design which = no overclocking. Not that I'm going to overclock anyways :P.

Lastly, can I use any 120mm fan for push-pull configuration on the 212 Evo?

yes, w/e fan is fine. dont worry too much about fancy fans since your not overclocking. and i wouldnt bother with push/pull since not overclocking.
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Dec 20 2014 10:41pm
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So basically Ur saying u wouldn't.  cos it's not smart thing to do, due to resell value and convenience . But based on them benchmarkz it doesn't tell an everyday casual nothing but colourful barz,  which is my point.


all those benchmarks will provide the buyer with information to make a decision on his own

so you think all those line/bar/pie/etc graphs are just colorful misguided info?

I would love for you to explain your colorful barz theory a little better

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Dec 20 2014 10:44pm
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performs the same and/or better, looks better, only slightly more expensive.


evo performs better have both tested on 2500k, 2600k, 2120,

dark knight is currently on my 2600k build evo was sold
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Dec 21 2014 12:23am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 20 2014 09:44pm)
evo performs better have both tested on 2500k, 2600k, 2120,

dark knight is currently on my 2600k build evo was sold

interesting
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Dec 21 2014 12:36am
I would have thought the DKII would have beat out the Evo. TEK SYNDICATE strikes again!!
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Dec 21 2014 12:40am
Quote (Bankai @ Dec 21 2014 01:23am)
interesting


Also

Evo or plus had 4 pipes the knight has 3

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Dec 21 2014 01:30am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Dec 20 2014 09:41pm)
all those benchmarks will provide the buyer with information to make a decision on his own

so you think all those line/bar/pie/etc graphs are just colorful misguided info?

I would love for you to explain your colorful barz theory a little better



i pretty much explained it, i agree with you that it gives info. on a specific item as a great guide line to use, IF the person understands what it means, gives 0 fuck about $$$ and how much the difference really is. (<-- means shit irl, it's like saying you can literally feel the GFG ram speed difference of a 1600 vs 1833 with yer naked eyes)
The problem is that casuals just see colorful bar/pie/line graphs and whichever graph shows higher is auto better.
Ex. 8350 looks better than 8320 on graphs, so spending $30 more is a given. No, cos if u get 8320e, u can spend that 30 to get a cooler to minor OC to match 8350 perf, or even a bit better while keeping your CPU cool.
OR you can get the 8350, use the shitty amd stock cooler, OR spend another $30 to get a cooler to clock it to surpass the OC of 8320e by like what? a lil more .ghz? extra $60 well spent. (would a casual know this info? i doubt it? Shouldn't they be lookin at an intel CPU? Pay $20 more for 4690k :rofl: )
It's not my theory, it's just a common thing we see everyday, the OP even planned to get the 8350 over 8320 based on them benchmarkz,

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Dec 21 2014 01:44am
Quote (Bankai @ Dec 20 2014 02:18am)
not really m8, the 290x's draw like 300watts each...


i vote 8350



They run about 550w~ for two.

You could get away running it on a good 750w.

High quality units are known to put out more power than they're rated for.

My whole point was 750w is plenty for 90% of people, But holy damn do 290x's use a ton of power >_<
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Dec 21 2014 02:49am
Quote (Secksii @ Dec 21 2014 02:30am)
i pretty much explained it, i agree with you that it gives info. on a specific item as a great guide line to use, IF the person understands what it means, gives 0 fuck about $$$ and how much the difference really is. (<-- means shit irl, it's like saying you can literally feel the GFG ram speed difference of a 1600 vs 1833 with yer naked eyes)
The problem is that casuals just see colorful bar/pie/line graphs and whichever graph shows higher is auto better.
Ex.  8350 looks better than 8320 on graphs, so spending $30 more is a given. No, cos if u get 8320e, u can spend that 30 to get a cooler to minor OC to match 8350 perf, or even a bit better while keeping your CPU cool.

OR you can get the 8350, use the shitty amd stock cooler, OR spend another $30 to get a cooler to clock it to surpass the OC of 8320e by like what? a lil more .ghz? extra $60 well spent. (would a casual know this info? i doubt it? Shouldn't they be lookin at an intel CPU? Pay $20 more for 4690k :rofl: )
It's not my theory, it's just a common thing we see everyday, the OP even planned to get the 8350 over 8320 based on them benchmarkz,


many reviews and benchmarks show overclocking results,

you are adding another variable into the equation, and assuming all silicon is equal,

do you know "casuals" or the typical users do NOT overclock, its like less than 2% overclock anything,

this is why the industry standard is benchmarks
this is why graphs are used in science, business, etc,
it shows data, fact, result, etc

for casuals the 8350 is greater
but the second you talk about overclocking, you arent dealing with a casual
did you learn anything about scientific method?
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